Pointers to Armageddon 2012?!?

dunndog

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It seems since a relatively short while ago the world has been slowly becoming more and more unsettled with signs of global fracture becoming evident with issues such as global warming, civil unrest and just recently this whole economic meltdown. Human beings seem to be suffering worse relations than ever, the planet is dying by our hand and we're doing sweet FA to help her and our greed and material desires are now catching up with us.. A few more years of this and things might start to look like the cleansing due in 2012 according to the Incas, Mayans, Nostradamus and various other religious sectors. What do all y'all think about this?
 

PINT of Stella. mate!

Many, many Scotches
It seems since a relatively short while ago the world has been slowly becoming more and more unsettled with signs of global fracture becoming evident with issues such as global warming, civil unrest and just recently this whole economic meltdown. Human beings seem to be suffering worse relations than ever, the planet is dying by our hand and we're doing sweet FA to help her and our greed and material desires are now catching up with us.. A few more years of this and things might start to look like the cleansing due in 2012 according to the Incas, Mayans, Nostradamus and various other religious sectors. What do all y'all think about this?
Well as far as the incans and mayans are concerned, Armageddon happened 500 years ago when the conquistadors arrived and wiped them out. Besides they didn't use our calender so how the fuck they could predict it happening in 2012 is beyond me. :rolleyes:

Nostradamus' predictions have been vague at best and are so open to interpretation that I could probably bend and twist it around to find out what I'm going to have for lunch today.

As for all this 'civil unrest' and economic catastrophe? For fucks sake, the market's taken a bit of a nose-dive (which it's prone to do) and we've got a couple of fairly small insurgencies around the world. This is not the Great Depression nor WW1 or WW2!

Bird Flu still hasn't become the great pandemic it was supposed to, the Y2K bug didn't cause nuclear meltdown and the most dangerous thing about the Large Hadron Collider is the risk of being stuck in a pub/on a flight with one of the hundreds of scientists involved in it and being bored to death!

Personally Arm a geddon tired of all this end-of-the-world nonsense that people keep wanting to bring up every time something remotely interesting something happens in the news! ;)
 
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Banned.Regularly

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the only reason why everyone is so hooked up on this shit is because the human race (at least a vast majority of us in the western world) no longer have to try and survive from day to day. I dont know what this argument is, but no we are not going to die.
 

frostbite

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If it did happen I'd be pissed. I'm just getting my life together.

It'd be like the time I was winning at Wii bowling for the first time ever and the power went out. Except fatal.
 

morgo_mpx

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Global Warming is bs. We are goning to have another ice age either way its, irrelevant. People survived it last time and being far more advanced im sure we can do it this time.

At 2nd Pster. The mayan calander has been adapted to the gregorian calander and 2012 is the date that it spat out.
 

thecat

NSWMTB, Central Tableland MBC
A few more years of this and things might start to look like the cleansing due in 2012 according to the Incas, Mayans, Nostradamus and various other religious sectors. What do all y'all think about this?

Nostradamus predicted the world would end in 1982, then again in 1986, 88, 96...

Every other week a doomsday cult comes out with a date Nostradaumus predicted as the end of the world.
Strange, those dates keep coming and going and the world doesn't end.

AFAIA The Incas had no such notion.

The Mayan calendar stops in 2012 but that probably more due to the fact the guy writing it got bored and thought someone else would finish it.

The Bible talks about the end of an age, sometimes translated as the end of times or the end of days... This is more to do the the horoscope that this psudo sun worshipping cult is based on
 
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thecat

NSWMTB, Central Tableland MBC
Well as far as the incans and mayans are concerned, Armageddon happened 500 years ago when the conquistadors arrived and wiped them out. Besides they didn't use our calender so how the fuck they could predict it happening in 2012 is beyond me. :rolleyes:
Actually they wiped each other out and the conquistador took the credit for them.
The Mayans had an accurate calendar which was further developed by the Aztecs. The Aztecs believed they had to stop the 5th destruction of the earth. They did this by pacifying the sun god with human sacrifices...

This may be our way our. Need need to reinstate human sacrifice. This has the dual bonuses of pleasing the gods and culling human numbers back to sustainable levels....
 

Spanky_Ham

Porcinus Slappius
Spanky heard that Specialised will start production of a DW link bike (so too will Giant, Yeti and also Huffy) in 2011, as the legal ppl wont have time to act on it as the world ends within 12 months.....

Also Grip will stop picking ppl up on bad grammer, and Spanky_Ham will give up his third person crap.... man, that p*sses some ppl right off....

lol

"Its the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine" - REM

spanky
 

cretin...rider

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As 'Pint of stella mate' said the world was supposed to end a couple of times so this is probably the same. My science teacher was saying that there is meant to be a polar reversal in 2012 (his a roady so i don't trust him) so if you believe in the crust on toast makes your hair curly then you may as well believe in this.
 

Arete

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Global Warming is bs. We are goning to have another ice age either way its, irrelevant. People survived it last time and being far more advanced im sure we can do it this time.

At 2nd Pster. The mayan calander has been adapted to the gregorian calander and 2012 is the date that it spat out.
You're a muppet.

As a SCIENTIST who works on climate change impacts on wild populations, human induced climate change (HICC) is REAL, there is more scientific consensus on HICC than the theory of relativity. There is an undeniable correlation between human release of greenhouse gases and a rise in global temperatures. There's not even a way to tweak the stats comprehensibly and show anything else. It's there, there's simply no credible way to refute the evidence. It's also occurring at a rate faster than even worst case predictions a decade ago.

Now, no scientist who works in HICC will tell you it's going to cause human extinction. That's alarmist wank from the typical nutters and stupid hemp wearing tree huggers who no one really cares about. However, climate patterns are already shifting. Whilst humans will more than likely pull through this one, a lot of organisms simply won't. The end of the Jurrassic extinction event left only 5% or less of the species on earth at the time, so catasrophic mass extinctions have occurred in the past and will occur in the future. Extinction rates have experienced exponential growth since the industrial revolution and as human resource usage and population increases, this extinction event is not over yet and will probably get worse before it gets better.

I and many other scientists believe the big problem for humans will be displacement over the next century. Places that are currently good to produce food and live in a steadily becoming less so. Australian farmers talk about this drought like it's going to end. Guys, this is a la nina year, a rainy year. Only the rain that used to fall on the wheat belt is falling in the Southern Ocean already. Adapting to a rapidly changing global climate, especially when idiots like you are dong their best to impersonate an ostrich will be one of the big challenges facing mankind over the next 100 years.

Those who will suffer the greatest, as per usual won't be you or I, but those people existing in marginal conditions. If food increased 4 fold in value we'd still have enough to eat, many wouldn't.
 
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Arete

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Oh and another point - why should scientists devote valuable time and research funding to coming up with a magic way for you not to have to change a damn thing about your life and everything being hunky dory?
There's a perfectly reasonable solution - reduce fossil fuel usage. Only people don't like that answer so they kick back and go " Oh the scientists will come up with something..." waiting for a solution that they like better.

To steal a quote from SCBlack's signature and adapt it: the solution's here. every day people need to change their lifestyles if they want to maintain their current standard of living long term. Stop sitting there expecting people to do things for you and take it upon yourself to do something to ensure your future.

(Note: this is not a personal attack on you, but an attack ont eh viwepoint you presented and all those who share it with you)
 

scblack

Leucocholic
I suppose you get threads and scary stories like these ones coming up, when you have kids around who have not yet lived through an economic crisis before.

The 1987 stock market crash on Wall Street was MUCH greater than we have faced the last 12months or so. The Dow dropped 25% or so in ONE DAY then. Did we face Armageddon then?

Nup.

The first economic "catastrophe" was in Holland in the 1630s - yes the 1600s - when the Tulip bulb mania took place. At the height of hysteria a single tulip bulb cost more than an entire HOUSE.
 

thecat

NSWMTB, Central Tableland MBC
The first economic "catastrophe" was in Holland in the 1630s - yes the 1600s - when the Tulip bulb mania took place. At the height of hysteria a single tulip bulb cost more than an entire HOUSE.
And every mom and dad inverstor bought in not understanding what they were doing and flooded the market... Now they are not worth crap!
 

S.

ex offender
The first economic "catastrophe" was in Holland in the 1630s - yes the 1600s - when the Tulip bulb mania took place. At the height of hysteria a single tulip bulb cost more than an entire HOUSE.
hahah someone has Wikipedia as their home page :p
 

scblack

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hahah someone has Wikipedia as their home page :p
I rarely ever look at Wikipedia.......

To study a topic, part of true understanding has to be to follow the history of certain events. The cyclical nature of financial markets is a very serious topic of academic study. The fundamentals, but also the human nature of crises such as these is fascinating.

But then I suppose Wikipedia being the fount of all your knowledge S., blinds you to the fact that some people simply KNOW what they are talking about.......:p
 

S.

ex offender
I rarely ever look at Wikipedia.......

To study a topic, part of true understanding has to be to follow the history of certain events. The cyclical nature of financial markets is a very serious topic of academic study. The fundamentals, but also the human nature of crises such as these is fascinating.

But then I suppose Wikipedia being the fount of all your knowledge S., blinds you to the fact that some people simply KNOW what they are talking about.......:p
ahaha nah I have it as my home page, the Tulip Mania article was the "featured" one a couple of days ago. I rarely actually read the thing :)
 

stoff

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C'mon now people. don't go believing all these people with their fancy science and learned opinions. The end is nigh, but don't worry, I have a solution. It's called Stoff's Church of the Apocalypse and we guarantee salvation all for the small price of all your assets. We are a non-demoninational church, so we will save you all and guarantee, thats right, guarantee you will end up with your soul cleansed and in whichever version of heaven you believe in (unfortunately we are currently unable to offer a reincarnation package). Can you really risk 'going to hell in 2012'? Now you may ask why you need to donate us all your assets. The answer is simple really. We need the money to build the 'End of Times Center', scheduled completion 2013.
 

taibo

Eats Squid
Oh and another point - why should scientists devote valuable time and research funding to coming up with a magic way for you not to have to change a damn thing about your life and everything being hunky dory?
There's a perfectly reasonable solution - reduce fossil fuel usage. Only people don't like that answer so they kick back and go " Oh the scientists will come up with something..." waiting for a solution that they like better.


To steal a quote from SCBlack's signature and adapt it: the solution's here. every day people need to change their lifestyles if they want to maintain their current standard of living long term. Stop sitting there expecting people to do things for you and take it upon yourself to do something to ensure your future.

(Note: this is not a personal attack on you, but an attack ont eh viwepoint you presented and all those who share it with you)

Im with you on this 100%!
If we all just did our bit, things would change. The "she'll be right" attitude isnt gonna change anything. We gotta change our attitude and outlook on things...the world might not end, but we are gonna make a trash pile of it!
 
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