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[Zaf]

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[pink poodle]

Accidentally stumbled on to some of this guys videos. He is the definition of right wing nut job. Amazing thing is he got elected to the EU Parliament.

Europe doesn't exactly have a great track record when it comes to leaders.

 

[steve jobs' pancreas]

Satire.
It's not meant to be taken as a serious critique of voting averages, it's just a straight up insult directed at socialists.

where's that picard meme when you need it ?

 

[johnny]

Satire.
It's not meant to be taken as a serious critique of voting averages, it's just a straight up insult directed at socialists.

Pretty sure Zaf’s full name is Vladimir Zafobokov and he works out a St Petersburg troll farm.

Mueller told me it’s true.

 

[Haakon]

Satire.
It's not meant to be taken as a serious critique of voting averages, it's just a straight up insult directed at socialists.

Yes. I got that, that was my point.

 

[Tubbsy]

Pretty sure Zaf’s full name is Vladimir Zafobokov and he works out a St Petersburg troll farm.

Mueller told me it’s true.

He does claim to come from the red centre... although the red army was peasants and socialists?

Epic trolling.

 

[pink poodle]

I'm actually pretty sure I know who @Zaf is in real life.

 

[johnny]

I'm actually pretty sure I know who @Zaf is in real life.

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[Tubbsy]

Pretty sure Zaf’s full name is Nikolai Zafobokov

Done some digging, you had the surname right, I've updated the first.

 

[Zaf]

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[droenn]

This whole franking credits thing is not high on my radar of things to care about, but this article (which probably won't satisfy some) presents an interesting exercise...

Labor’s changes would have virtually no impact across the bottom 70% of the wealth distribution. Almost 90% of the total value of all imputation cheques are paid to the top 20% of the wealth distribution.

Around 2.7% are paid to the bottom 50%.

At last, an answer to the $5 billion question: who gets the imputation cheques Labor will take away?

It’s the highest earning most wealthy shareowners who’ll be missing the cheques.

theconversation.com

 

[Scotty T]

This whole franking credits thing is not high on my radar of things to care about

It is only relevant for people voting this way:

 

[pink poodle]

Tough break!
Also...

To be confirmed in July I guess, when we'll inevitably become BFF's. I'll make Poodle/Zaf bracelets, you can braid my hair, we can go for long rides and talk about things and stuff!

Long rides? Wtf??? I don't do long rides....who has time for pedalling? Shuttles bro and you didn't buy the right vehicle! My heart is broken.

 

[SummitFever]

It is only relevant for people voting this way:

You've really got this arse about. The point is:

• labour are not supposed to be for the rich;
• they propose a regressive change to the imputation credit system that is clearly too complicated for the average punter to understand;
• they are lying when they say its a handout, it is anything but (otherwise if you get a tax refund on your salary do you consider that a handout?);
• in revenue terms it will take more from the rich than the poor, but taking anything from the poor is a shitty thing to do;
• it would be simple to have it asset tested and it would not impact the poor.

Not caring about something because it doesn't affect you is just as shitty a thing to do as voting [1]-Me in your picture.

 

[Zaf]

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[johnny]

Not caring about something because it doesn't affect you is just as shitty a thing to do as voting [1]-Me in your picture.

In this context, I don't think that's a completely fair thing to say. This issue is too complex for the average punter to understand so of course they are going to vote on things based on their interests.

Nobody is fully across every policy of every party they number on the ballot. In that sense, people vote on what they care about and mosts often that's going to be the things that impact them, regards values and interests. They will discount the things they don't understand, even if they are aware of an issue, because one has to draw a line somewhere.

 

[hifiandmtb]

You can't please everyone, @SummitFever

 

[pink poodle]

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More strange super villain determined to rule the world.

 

[Scotty T]

Dude. Poor people don't have shares. I thought we cleared that up. I care less about people with shares than actual poor people. I am not poor. But i am also not rich enough to have shares on top of mortgage and life.

As I alluded to in my post most of these so called poor are people like my in laws. It galls me that they would see this as important enough to vote on given they have great grandkids. I am voting for climate change. I've made it clear previously so calling me out as voting for me is just plain wrong.

I am for the franking bullshit in principle. If it needs tuning so the genuinely poor, let's call those people likely to run out of money before they die, because the genuinely poor unretired people don't have shares, no worries. It's why we have a Senate.

 

[pink poodle]

I think aspirational might be the adjective you're looking for.