I've had the complete opposite experience with the Trailskins. The only pads that I've owned that haven't slipped on me, saved my knees at Barjarg and Youies plus I can ride all day long hardly noticing I'm even wearing them!
Dainese Trail Skins are good for everything from dh to xc, I had trouble with 661 rages pads slipping down and being super uncomfortable after long rides.
Trail skins fit me well and are flexible. They haven't seemed to affect my pedaling but have saved my knees once or twice so far... no...
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