Broken wrist recovery

eastie

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Or you could do what I did; break a shoulder, ignore specialist advice, enter a 3 hr enduro too soon, take an otb during an off track excursion on the first lap through combined lack of strength/nerve to gather enough speed, rebreak shoulder during off track excursion, be mental enough to say DNF is not for me, get back on track and finish the lap with rebroken shoulder, be retarded enough to re-align aim during remainder of first lap of not being lapped by the race leaders on the first lap, be off the bike for another 3 months to recover properly with some physio.
 

knob scortcher

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I broke my wrist 6 weeks before entering my first xc race. I was told not to do any physical activity after i got the cast off for four weeks. But i still went mountain biking with the cast on and a broken wrist. :wacko: I don't suggest doing that for very obvious reasons. I was able to race in time and posted a really good time so my wrist was fine.
 

Ridenparadise

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It amazes me hearing people promoting removing casts, cutting them back etc. The cast was tight - what, should it be loose? I cut the thumb part off - so now it's not a scaphoid cast and not worth a pinch of ****! Doctors covering their arse - yep, the prime training in medicine is not how to help, but how not to help.

The scaphoid bone has one blood vessel supplying it. Unlike most everywhere in the body, that vessel enters the bone distally (the finger side) and therefore when the bone breaks it is the proximal (towards the head) end of the bone that can die causing complete loss of wrist stability, permanent arthritis and stiffness. Complete immobilisation is essential. Internal fixation with a screw is better. For every person who gets away with being their own orthopaedic surgeon there is at least one who regrets it. A broken bone causes a short peiod of disability in the overall scheme of things. Do what your surgeon says and hopefully (but not definitely) you will not have a very long period of disability, or worse.
 

pharmaboy

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Fortunately the replies have generally got more sensible as the thread goes on.

For any future readers in oz, generally big hospitals have fracture clinics- if you get into a fracture clinic within 7 days of fracture there is a hope of getting a screw put in at no cost. The screw dramatically cuts time in cast, but they will only do it for people who depend on their hand use for income - eg need to drive for work is a good answer otherwise my family will starve etc etc . In hindsight I do wish I spent the $3k on getting mine screwed rather than an eternity in a cast
 

ctguru

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Fortunately the replies have generally got more sensible as the thread goes on.

For any future readers in oz, generally big hospitals have fracture clinics- if you get into a fracture clinic within 7 days of fracture there is a hope of getting a screw put in at no cost. The screw dramatically cuts time in cast, but they will only do it for people who depend on their hand use for income - eg need to drive for work is a good answer otherwise my family will starve etc etc . In hindsight I do wish I spent the $3k on getting mine screwed rather than an eternity in a cast
benefits of private health insurance

my clavicle would have cost nearly $10k to fix if I didn't have insurance, would never have been plated if I were a public patient and I'm a health professional and know how the system works

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It amazes me hearing people promoting removing casts, cutting them back etc. The cast was tight - what, should it be loose? If this in regards to my post, yes it was too tight, thanks for presuming I'm an idiot. Everything is formulated to deal with the masses of stupidity. Laws, doctors whatever. My hand would throb within minutes, so I'd have to lift it above my head, and I'd feel the pressure release imediaty. If I was near the doctor who put the cast on, I'd perhaps have gone back for another. I've had 6 casts before this one on other breaks, so I know how they should feel, two of them were also Scafoids. Cumfrey that I used is known as "Bone Knit" and for good reason, perhaps google it. Because of tests done on a similer plant with some simler alcaloids or something, in the 80s it got a bad name to take internally. Sponsored by drug companies I'm not sure. There's hundreds of stories of how great it is. Including mine. My Scafoid was snapped in two, three weeks later no sign of anything on X-Ray. I would sit with my hand in the cast, or on my lap, if I was to get up for anything, I'd tape the cast back on, it had maybe 1/4 removed from the back. It's there to hold the joint totally imobile. So I did hold it totally imobile. Dudes using their hand with the cast on would do a LOT more damage. Just look at all the different procedures for different things, nothing is the Correct way. Perhaps I should have put more detail into how cautious I was, but I didn't want to ramble on, I figured people would presume I was. I cut the thumb part off - so now it's not a scaphoid cast and not worth a pinch of ****! Doctors covering their arse - yep, the prime training in medicine is not how to help, but how not to help. I also made comment "Do what the doctor says".

The scaphoid bone has one blood vessel supplying it. Unlike most everywhere in the body, that vessel enters the bone distally (the finger side) and therefore when the bone breaks it is the proximal (towards the head) end of the bone that can die causing complete loss of wrist stability, permanent arthritis and stiffness. Complete immobilisation is essential. Internal fixation with a screw is better. For every person who gets away with being their own orthopaedic surgeon there is at least one who regrets it. A broken bone causes a short peiod of disability in the overall scheme of things. Do what your surgeon says and hopefully (but not definitely) you will not have a very long period of disability, or worse.
It is the worst bone to heal aparently due to the blood supply. With one wrist bolted solid, I wasn't taking ANY risks.
 
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ctguru

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Mine was about $1500 out of pocket with what I thought was top cover(Bupa)(We're talking about the plated collar bone right?). Who are you with ctguru?
medibank private, yep plated clavicle that's in the picture

10 hole plate, 13 screws and 25 staples, my best effort yet
 

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medibank private, yep plated clavicle that's in the picture

10 hole plate, 13 screws and 25 staples, my best effort yet
Frick, they coulda used some shorter screws. My plates a touch shorter. Couple less screws, and shorter insision. Total cost was under $4000 at Private hospital. $10G sounds accessive. Probably more to it.
 

ctguru

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Frick, they coulda used some shorter screws. My plates a touch shorter. Couple less screws, and shorter insision. Total cost was under $4000 at Private hospital. $10G sounds accessive. Probably more to it.
yeah I crushed it when I hit a tree and not from falling over
 

shirtz

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medibank private, yep plated clavicle that's in the picture

10 hole plate, 13 screws and 25 staples, my best effort yet
1500ish out of pocket for my scaphiod. took a looooong time to heal. maybe in a cast for 3 months. should have got the surgury right away, but what can you do. over a year since surgury and still not 100%
 

ctguru

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Frick, they coulda used some shorter screws. My plates a touch shorter. Couple less screws, and shorter insision. Total cost was under $4000 at Private hospital. $10G sounds accessive. Probably more to it.
i little bit long, but they need to go through cortical bone (bone edge), middle of bone is spongey and won't hold screw properly
 

retroenduro

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dunno the names etc but i broke several of the bones in my wrist a couple years back. It was probably the most complex break you can do and still get movement back. Did it just cruising along popping manual and going over the back....was such a stupid crash but what did it was that i was wearing a big chunky metal watch which had slipped down over my wrist and then crushed the bones as i bent the wrist in the fall...

aaanyway so was off the bike for ages, i think about 8 - 10 weeks...has surgery at the Alfred and loads of lovely Ti added. now have about 70-80% movement back and can ride as good as before. Every now and again it aches but im happy to have the movement back as the first doc i saw said i would get nothing back (always get a second opinion).

So dont try and race too soon, enjoy the benefit of resting, work on a trainer etc and milk the injury with the girls for all its worth ;)

PS it was all on medicare and i wasnt out of pocket at all...wierd?!
 

OIL

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Me too!

yeah i just got my plaster off on monday, i had to have my cast on for 8 weeks!

for me it's about gaining the flexibility and strength in my hand from it being inactive for 2 months. not to mention removing the disgusting skin factor. The thing about scaphoid is it may not heal properly so i'd rather build the muscle around it before riding on a wet boardwalk again...idiot

Matty
 

chrisp2087

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OIL I am starting to wonder whether you are in fact me from about 4 days in the future, I get my cast off today (in about 3 hours thankfully) and I'll be aiming at getting the strength & calluses back gradually. The scary part is that I fell while riding on wet boardwalk as well.

I'm pretty sure my bone has been healing well, I kept it completely immobile for about 3 weeks & then started to do small activities with it, lifting a book, finger exercises, stretching & after 5 weeks I got back on the bike for some gentle flat rides.

I'll put in the disclaimer that my "wrist" bone that broke was actually one of the main bones of the arm but right at the end near the wrist.

yeah i just got my plaster off on monday, i had to have my cast on for 8 weeks!

for me it's about gaining the flexibility and strength in my hand from it being inactive for 2 months. not to mention removing the disgusting skin factor. The thing about scaphoid is it may not heal properly so i'd rather build the muscle around it before riding on a wet boardwalk again...idiot

Matty
 

pharmaboy

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PS it was all on medicare and i wasnt out of pocket at all...wierd?!
Not weird, significant break that needed treatment. Most of the fractures people are talking about here get better with just a cast on- those sort of breaks medicare does the cheapest way , so if you want faster recovery you have to go private and $$$$s

Big trauma - no cost, small stuff - means private for good healthcare
 

OIL

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boney M

OIL I am starting to wonder whether you are in fact me from about 4 days in the future, I get my cast off today (in about 3 hours thankfully) and I'll be aiming at getting the strength & calluses back gradually. The scary part is that I fell while riding on wet boardwalk as well.

I'm pretty sure my bone has been healing well, I kept it completely immobile for about 3 weeks & then started to do small activities with it, lifting a book, finger exercises, stretching & after 5 weeks I got back on the bike for some gentle flat rides.

I'll put in the disclaimer that my "wrist" bone that broke was actually one of the main bones of the arm but right at the end near the wrist.
hey good luck with the removal today. I used a great Neutrogena cream for the skin on my hand and it worked wonders!! check the difference in just over 24 hours!!

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yeah that day i fell off - i actually slipped in the driveway first as i left for my ride...should have been a warning - wasnt even an hour before i came off again.
i also rode on the boardwalk that my mate came off on 3 weeks earlier. 2nd warning i guess. my Strava time looks funny as, slowed down to 20 kph to ride on it cos i knew it was dodgy then - i just flatlined for about 1 minute! LOL

you know, ive been riding my whole life doing crazy stuff - having fun and ive had some GREAT stacks in my time. i must say though, the sheer speed and force that i hit the deck with on this one i will never forget. even though i cant remember the fall happening really. 1 second i was coasting - next i'm on the ground cursing blue murder! i thought i had actually busted my knees and i was afraid to look. they looked like a chicken had laid dirty eggs under my knee caps!

took me 2 days to realize i had broken ribs as well...
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at least i managed to build another bike while immobile...
:)
 
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i little bit long, but they need to go through cortical bone (bone edge), middle of bone is spongey and won't hold screw properly
mine aren't as long but still pass through. My x ray is on here in another thread "collar bone".

for me it's about gaining the flexibility and strength in my hand from it being inactive for 2 months. not to mention removing the disgusting skin factor. The thing about scaphoid is it may not heal properly so i'd rather build the muscle around it before riding on a wet boardwalk again...idiot

Matty
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