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Hello mob! I'm considering buying a carbon wheelset for the next bike. If anyone has used them or has constructive discussion - please respond.
I'm planning on running them on a 26er, 100mm dually for XC and Enduro purposes. I'm no lightweight, but still only 78kg, and a fairly aggressive rider.
Specifically I'm tossing up between:
The EXC 1550 use a 400g rim (the EXC 400) - this is the same weight as the rim used in the Edge Composites AM series wheelset (http://www.edgecomposites.com/wheels/mtb/am.aspx). Somehow - Edge claim that their wheelset built on DT 240 hubs will weigh a total of 1425g, whereas the EXC 1550 wheelset is apparently built also on DT 240 hubs, with the same weight rims - and somehow weighs 1550g - work that one out??? Not really important I suppose.
The main point of difference between the two brands seems to be that Edge use molded spoke nipple holes, whereas DT Swiss use stainless inserts for eyelets. This causes Edge to specify a 2 cross lacing pattern to ensure no interference between the spoke and the rim (as 3 cross would leave the rim at too great of an angle rubbing on the carbon). Both DT Swiss wheelsets allow a 3 cross pattern of lacing.
Edge are tubeless non-ready - a bit of a downer. As the Edge rims have access to the spoke (for tensioning etc) via the bead well (i.e. under the rim strip), you can't easily and practically run a rim strip and tubeless set up. I still would but! DT Swiss are not UST, but the placement of the nipples in traditional position makes them more suitable to rim strips.
My dilemma also relates to the duty of the wheelset. As can be seen on the Edge website - Greg Minnaar just took victory at Maribor, the first DH World Cup round of the season. He was running the Edge AM rims... So if they are up to this duty, then I am leaning towards the XRC 1350, or the Edge XC Series. A bit of internet grave-digging shows that both Sam Hill and Greg Minnaar were using the EXC 400 rims as far back as May 2009, Edge obviously has stolen the limelight in DH at least (http://www.bikerumor.com/2009/05/08/new-dt-swiss-carbon-rim-xc-am-mountain-bike-wheels/). Other Santa Cruz DH riders appear to be running the Edge rims as well on the new carbon V10's.
Reviews I've found:
http://twentynineinches.com/2008/12/12/edge-composites-wheels-midterm-update/ - there are a few linked at the bottom of the page also relating to Edge rims.
Comment away... I haven't discussed the price on purpose, as it makes me ill...
I'm planning on running them on a 26er, 100mm dually for XC and Enduro purposes. I'm no lightweight, but still only 78kg, and a fairly aggressive rider.
Specifically I'm tossing up between:
- lightweight DT Swiss XRC 1350 (http://www.dtswiss.com/Products/Wheels/XRC-wheels/XRC-1350.aspx, 24mm wide x 20mm depth, 310g rim)
- the enduro focussed EXC 1550 (http://www.dtswiss.com/Products/Wheels/EX-wheels/EXC-1550.aspx, 29.4mm wide x 22mm depth, 400g rim)
- and their Edge Composites counterparts, the XC Series (http://www.edgecomposites.com/wheels/mtb/xc.aspx, 24mm wide x 32mm depth, 340g rim)
- and the AM Series (http://www.edgecomposites.com/wheels/mtb/am.aspx, 30mm wide x 32mm depth, 400g rim).
The EXC 1550 use a 400g rim (the EXC 400) - this is the same weight as the rim used in the Edge Composites AM series wheelset (http://www.edgecomposites.com/wheels/mtb/am.aspx). Somehow - Edge claim that their wheelset built on DT 240 hubs will weigh a total of 1425g, whereas the EXC 1550 wheelset is apparently built also on DT 240 hubs, with the same weight rims - and somehow weighs 1550g - work that one out??? Not really important I suppose.
The main point of difference between the two brands seems to be that Edge use molded spoke nipple holes, whereas DT Swiss use stainless inserts for eyelets. This causes Edge to specify a 2 cross lacing pattern to ensure no interference between the spoke and the rim (as 3 cross would leave the rim at too great of an angle rubbing on the carbon). Both DT Swiss wheelsets allow a 3 cross pattern of lacing.
Edge are tubeless non-ready - a bit of a downer. As the Edge rims have access to the spoke (for tensioning etc) via the bead well (i.e. under the rim strip), you can't easily and practically run a rim strip and tubeless set up. I still would but! DT Swiss are not UST, but the placement of the nipples in traditional position makes them more suitable to rim strips.
My dilemma also relates to the duty of the wheelset. As can be seen on the Edge website - Greg Minnaar just took victory at Maribor, the first DH World Cup round of the season. He was running the Edge AM rims... So if they are up to this duty, then I am leaning towards the XRC 1350, or the Edge XC Series. A bit of internet grave-digging shows that both Sam Hill and Greg Minnaar were using the EXC 400 rims as far back as May 2009, Edge obviously has stolen the limelight in DH at least (http://www.bikerumor.com/2009/05/08/new-dt-swiss-carbon-rim-xc-am-mountain-bike-wheels/). Other Santa Cruz DH riders appear to be running the Edge rims as well on the new carbon V10's.
Reviews I've found:
http://twentynineinches.com/2008/12/12/edge-composites-wheels-midterm-update/ - there are a few linked at the bottom of the page also relating to Edge rims.
Comment away... I haven't discussed the price on purpose, as it makes me ill...
