Gay Marriage
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Then the question still stands, if gays aren't inclusive of marraige because they can't have kids, why is this not the same for hetero couples who choose not to have kids?DHDozer said:
BTW, views can change. A few years ago according to me, refugees should be blown out of the water, gays shouldn't marry, immigration should be heavily restricted, the poor were poor because they didn't work hard, homeless people were bums etc. But then I actually had to interact and work with these poeple (I'm talking gays in the army, going to combat zones and seeing repectable people and children being forced out of their homes and onto leaky boats woithout food and water, had a friend who turned schizophrenic, lived homeless/on the street and ended up killing himself....I rode passed his body as it lay on the road without even knowing it was him.
Reality aint as simple as my ignorant and unfounded OPINIONS lead me to beleive.
Of course we can change.
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Having sex between menstrual/ovulation cycles to decrease the chance of conception.NeBoS said:Whats the 'rhythm method'?
It doesn't work because sperm will stay alive for up to a week within the female and actively seek an ova the whole time.
As unreliable as the "withdraw" method.....use your imagination for that one
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I have a very happy marriage, I love my wife and I love my two beautiful children. I also love my parents (who also love each other and have been married for 60 years). My wife loves her parents (I kinda do too and they've been married for almost 50 years).johnny said:
Despite the fact that you seem to think marriage is a farce due to ... what is it??? Statistical reasoning? I simply don't.
What am I protecting? My family.
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I agree with most of what you're saying. The one exception being that I don't believe a homesexual environment is a healthy one for a growing child. Not because the parents wouldn't love the child (good and bad people come in all flavours), more because it doesn't offer the right balance. I'm probably more anti lesbian parents over gay males too - for no particular reason, just a "gut feeling".Techno Destructo said:I have mixed feelings on this one, being that it's not exactly a "normal" family structure for children to be raised in.
However, I do feel strongly about a few things:
1. The two gay parents can be just as, or even more loving than normal parents.
2. "Normal" families can be just as dysfunctional/abysmal as any family structure.
3. Kids with parents who want them are FAR better off than having no parents at all. If I was in an orphanage with no family/parents and I got offered two gay parents who wanted me? I know what decision I'd be making!
What are you protecting them from? Your family won't be forced to gay marry, they're not going to catch "the gay". Realistically, it can't think of a single material effect that it would have on your day to day existence.kevpun said:
Here's a question for you, IF one of your children was homosexual, would you want them to be prevented from marrying their partner?
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Marriage is devoid of meaning in modern society, what with 2 out of 3 marriages ending in divorce. The only reason people get married is to throw a party where people will stroke their ego's. Just about everyone lives together before they are married, has sex before they are married and should have a well developed and stable relationship before they are married.
If gay folks want to do it, they are welcome to it as far as I'm concerned. If a same sex couple wants to adopt or raise kids, why the hell not?
Who cares, really, there are far worse things going on in the world today to worry about than whether 2 men or 2 women want to get married and bring up kids!
My parents have been married 36 years, I'm in a stable relationship and I still think that marriage is a joke. Getting married or not is not going to change my relationship one iota. I don't want kids now, and I won't want them just because I've signed a marriage certicicate. Even if I did want them, being legally married wouldn't be a factor in when and where I chose to have them.
If gay folks want to do it, they are welcome to it as far as I'm concerned. If a same sex couple wants to adopt or raise kids, why the hell not?
Who cares, really, there are far worse things going on in the world today to worry about than whether 2 men or 2 women want to get married and bring up kids!
My parents have been married 36 years, I'm in a stable relationship and I still think that marriage is a joke. Getting married or not is not going to change my relationship one iota. I don't want kids now, and I won't want them just because I've signed a marriage certicicate. Even if I did want them, being legally married wouldn't be a factor in when and where I chose to have them.
Techno Destructo
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I fully agree. Not everybody is born with set-in-stone values. And those who can't change their values/opinions/ideals, well, I'm not sure what their problem is. Too pig-headed? Not very intelligent? Replicants?johnny said:
My opinions have changed over time, and some are still in a state of evaluation, as seen by my views on lesbians and sperm donors. Although I'm a lefty at heart, I'm willing to hear convincing arguments on both sides. It's the only way to approach life in general!
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Forget gay marriage, I say we ban red head people from getting married. Why?
Come on people, their hair is RED!
And if two red heads get married and have kids then chances are they're kids will be red head too*. That's more people with RED HAIR!
*Red hair is dominant isn't it? I always forget.
Come on people, their hair is RED!
And if two red heads get married and have kids then chances are they're kids will be red head too*. That's more people with RED HAIR!
*Red hair is dominant isn't it? I always forget.
Techno Destructo
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LOL! Why's that? Less women available on the market?kevpun said:
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