Kerry Packer's Death

[scblack]

That IS being a good businessman, apparently.

Like drugs in sport, you can't compete against it, so you do it yourself and win, or come further down the field, and bask in your own integrity.
Unlike drugs in sport, where people do get caught, the most succesful businessmen have the money and power to get away with it.

Call me a cynic if you like.
And like I said, the Packer family were filthy rich to begin with, Kerry didn't make the fortune, he multiplied it. It's not like he started out with nothing.

You're a cynic.

Kerry did not start out with nothing, that's true, but he grew the family fortune MASSIVELY, by taking calculated risks. He took risks, ones he was confident in, and won hugely. but I don't believe he shafted people (except that idiot Alan Bond - hehe, sucker). For some things he was just in the right place at the right time, but especially he was prepared to put his money where his mouth was, and capitalised on that.

Good on him, as far as I'm concerned.

Dumbellna wrote: * Its not jealous that drives me, but sickness at the way people think rich and famous people are beyond repoach in death. All people are human in that they have pluses and minuses, we have a tendency to see only pluses and ignore the minuses. I am presenting the minuses and for that I am criticised (which is fair enough, I have no problem with that).

Yes, you have the right to present pluses and minuses, but I reckon you are skewing them WAY over your side.

 

[No Skid Marks]

Go wash ya brain again scblack,all this might be turning you to the truth of reality,I hear channel nines good,easy to digest,baaahhhh.

 

[scblack]

Go wash ya brain again scblack,all this might be turning you to the truth of reality,I hear channel nines good,easy to digest,baaahhhh.

Well it's pretty hard to understand what the hell you are going on about there noskidmarks, but that tends to be the case with your posts.

If it's easy to digest, I'm sure you'll be watching closely, but still trying to understand what's going on.

QUOTE=No Skid Marks: Befroe anyone falls of the Packer high horse maybee look into the fact that 3 people might be dead as a direct result of him drink driving in the 50s. I'm not sure if this is fact and don't care but if your waving a flag then check it out.
Money at that level is a very cheap form of getting respect. Moneys just a fuckwits way of keeping score. Greed will get you nowhere, might take you till the end of your life to figure it out, but you will.

A cheap form of respect huh? The easiest way to lose any respect is to post shit you know NOTHING about. And you usually know fuck-all about what you post on.

At least Packer has MANY people who will praise and respect what he has done for himself and many others.

What have you done to earn ANY respect? Nothing round here, quite the opposite.

 

[No Skid Marks]

I feel I've offered some good advice to young people on here confused by the marketing hype of some products and steered them in the right direction throgh sound advice that I offer from experience. Yes I have a problem with expressing my thoughts through the keyboard, should have paid more attention at school I guess,but thats not to say I don't know what I'm talking about. Anyone that has more than they need for the only benefit of having power and not for the purpose of helping others because thet makes them feel good is evil and greedy in my eyes and is one of the major problems we face with sosciety today. Yes you do need money to not be srewed by it in this sosciety but how much is enough? Just making money for the sake of it is damaging to yourself and everyone you climb on to get richer. If you can't agree with this because you do,or because thats how you make money buy lying to people that your a good bloke then you'll possibly get to the end of your life and not have achieved spiritual or financial wealth . Hey the dudes dead and I really do not like speaking ill of the dead so please just concider my posts on this topic relevant to rich guys of his ilk. Sure success is great on any level but don't fool yourself into thinking he got there at no cost to others. As for the drink driving thing, no I don't know for sure as I was just told by a mate and I'm sure it's well berried and hard to find out and I do not have the skills to do that.
Even this post is hard to read but hell I just don't care, nor do I care for respect from users on here that offer generic programed arguments. Yes sometimes I say shit just to insite conversation so I can learn from the retorts offered and for that I'm sorry. Hey no offence meant bro, you just sound very hmmm whats a good word obvious, no thats not it, you just sound like your facts come from the paper or TV. I know that above statement of mine sounds like it's from the bible or something but I'm hoping to be supported by others with facts that I cared not to absoprb when I took the principal understanding from them and them discarded them thinking I would have no use for them as they were just negative.

 

[I-AM-TEH-FASTEST-11]

I was actually suprised to see Scblack take this side. I'm usually in total disagreance with most things he says on here (he's a cool guy in R.L either way)
I'm more suprised because I LOVE to generalise and I would have loved to have thought of Scblack as one of those guys who hates big business and the men behind them.. but with all generalisations there is always exceptions hehe..

anyway, I've made my points clear about my opinion on K.P, and all I can really say is he was a GREAT man, in any sense of the word.

 

[cam-o]

I'm more suprised because I LOVE to generalise and I would have loved to have thought of Scblack as one of those guys who hates big business and the men behind them.. .

I'm surprised you got that idea given Scblack makes no secret of the fact he's in the finance game. Never met the bloke but my perception is the opposite. I'm thinking flash suit wearing badass mofo

 

[I-AM-TEH-FASTEST-11]

I'm surprised you got that idea given Scblack makes no secret of the fact he's in the finance game. Never met the bloke but my perception is the opposite. I'm thinking flash suit wearing badass mofo

haha I already knew he was in finance, but it still suprises me....

hah that 'flash suit' visual made me laugh

 

[scblack]

I feel I've offered some good advice to young people on here confused by the marketing hype of some products and steered them in the right direction throgh sound advice that I offer from experience. Yes I have a problem with expressing my thoughts through the keyboard, should have paid more attention at school I guess,but thats not to say I don't know what I'm talking about. Anyone that has more than they need for the only benefit of having power and not for the purpose of helping others because thet makes them feel good is evil and greedy in my eyes and is one of the major problems we face with sosciety today. Yes you do need money to not be srewed by it in this sosciety but how much is enough? Just making money for the sake of it is damaging to yourself and everyone you climb on to get richer. If you can't agree with this because you do,or because thats how you make money buy lying to people that your a good bloke then you'll possibly get to the end of your life and not have achieved spiritual or financial wealth . Hey the dudes dead and I really do not like speaking ill of the dead so please just concider my posts on this topic relevant to rich guys of his ilk. Sure success is great on any level but don't fool yourself into thinking he got there at no cost to others. As for the drink driving thing, no I don't know for sure as I was just told by a mate and I'm sure it's well berried and hard to find out and I do not have the skills to do that.
Even this post is hard to read but hell I just don't care, nor do I care for respect from users on here that offer generic programed arguments. Yes sometimes I say shit just to insite conversation so I can learn from the retorts offered and for that I'm sorry. Hey no offence meant bro, you just sound very hmmm whats a good word obvious, no thats not it, you just sound like your facts come from the paper or TV. I know that above statement of mine sounds like it's from the bible or something but I'm hoping to be supported by others with facts that I cared not to absoprb when I took the principal understanding from them and them discarded them thinking I would have no use for them as they were just negative.

Thats a pretty decent reply NoSkidMarks.

I have had a go at you because you are posting slurs on him, about the drink driving story, without having a clue whether what you are saying is true or not. That is NOT a reasonable way of doing anything. Just posting up a crap story you heard from a mate does not add anything for anyone. Would you like me to post shitty stories about you, just because I heard it from someone? I'd guess not, so then why do it about others?

I hope I have not offended you too much other than this item.

 

[R33F]

I will be watching with keen interest what his son does with the business in the next 12 months. What does everyone think ? Will James sell ? Its been rumoured.

Will he be able to fill the old mans shoes ?



[off topic]

I'm thinking flash suit wearing badass mofo

scblack rides a bullit....

he is a badass mofo

 

[No Skid Marks]

All good. I never said the drink driving was fact, I just through it out there to see if anyone could/would validate it.
Some people have tallents at something not so desirable and it's often overwhelming and they get taken away with it, with a rich father as an educator I'm sure his moalls were more constructed on success and with that in mind he acieved the pinicale of that and for that he was a great man. I just don't aspire to that and don't respect it. In the end tough who really knows whats right or wrong. I just wish to die contempt that I didn't sell out on my beliefs be them wrong or not, I guess he might of been the same. R.I.P.

 

[Cave Dweller]

I wonder if he died a happy man? Or if he regretted not spending more time with his family? I wonder what his last words to his son were? I love you son or don't let stokes get the AFL? Maybe he wished he did more to help society seeing the huge potential and influence he had, or maybe he was happy at the amounts he gave? I wonder if he wished that he could trade in all $7 billion of his money to stay alive another 20 years and get a chance to see his grand children?

Death is the greatest leveller of all. People who think money is everything in life make me really sad and i pity them. At the end of the day what really is money anyway?

Im not sad to see him go, but condolences to his family and friends whom his death will effect much more.

 

[I-AM-TEH-FASTEST-11]

cave dweler you probablyshould know that he actually CHOSE to go off medication. He was sick of being forced to live a half life in and out of hospital.
He could have lived for many more years, not so much fun, but living all the same... but yeh he said was sick of it and decided to die with dignity.

 

[Cave Dweller]

cave dweler you probablyshould know that he actually CHOSE to go off medication. He was sick of being forced to live a half life in and out of hospital.
He could have lived for many more years, not so much fun, but living all the same... but yeh he said was sick of it and decided to die with dignity.

I knew this, i read the papers as well, doesn't change what i was saying. My grandfather is on dialysis 3 times a week, i know what its all about.....

 

[I-AM-TEH-FASTEST-11]

yeh fair enough then

 

[Always_keen_Jezza]

Proles! At the moment that is all we are I am afraid!

 

[Registered Nutter]

I wonder if he died a happy man? Or if he regretted not spending more time with his family? I wonder what his last words to his son were? I love you son or don't let stokes get the AFL? Maybe he wished he did more to help society seeing the huge potential and influence he had, or maybe he was happy at the amounts he gave? I wonder if he wished that he could trade in all $7 billion of his money to stay alive another 20 years and get a chance to see his grand children?

Death is the greatest leveller of all. People who think money is everything in life make me really sad and i pity them. At the end of the day what really is money anyway?

Im not sad to see him go, but condolences to his family and friends whom his death will effect much more.

i guess we will never know what his last actions were

 

[scblack]

I was actually suprised to see Scblack take this side. I'm usually in total disagreance with most things he says on here (he's a cool guy in R.L either way)
I'm more suprised because I LOVE to generalise and I would have loved to have thought of Scblack as one of those guys who hates big business and the men behind them.. but with all generalisations there is always exceptions hehe..

anyway, I've made my points clear about my opinion on K.P, and all I can really say is he was a GREAT man, in any sense of the word.

Yep, along with cam-o I dunno where you got the idea I'm anti-big business. I post threads about cutting the top tax rates and such - hardly a socialist. I work directly with Kerry Packer's contemporaries - top ten BRW Rich List, so I really do work with people exactly like Packer.

cam-o wrote: I'm thinking flash suit wearing badass mofo

How cool - I like that.

 

[Ben-e]

I wonder if he died a happy man?

This made me think of 'Six Feet Under' - episode last night where they were saying that those of the buddhism religion can take their money with them. Kerry should have been Buddhist eh - im sure he would have died extremely happy...

 

[Renegade]

well people might go'' ahh stinkin' rich bastard'' but if it wasnt for him channel (sp?) 7, 9 and 10 and all the newspapers wouldnt be if it wasnt for him. he was a very smart man and built things himself. people such as his helicopter driver even donated a kindney for him so wouldnt that mean he was a nice man?. He had so many surgeries and stuff didnt he?.That just goes to show, money cant buy everything. Not health.

R.I.P K.P

 

[johnny]

Not sure if Kerry ever had anything to do with 7 and 10 and he did magazines more than news papers I think. Once again though, Packer was Casinos more than all of his other interests put together.

Anyone know the story about the lizard and the outback landing strip?