Michael Schumacher returns to F1

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What do you lot think? I think it's good for the sport since it's been a rough year for F1.

Ferrari has admitted that Michael Schumacher will return to Formula 1 this season.

Rumours had been rife that the seven-times world F1 champion would fill the empty space left by Felipe Massa after the freak crash at the weekend which put him in a critical condition and effectively ended his 2009 campaign.

In a short statement, the team said ‘Scuderia Ferrari Marlboro intends to put Michael Schumacher in Felipe Massa's car until the Brazilian driver will be able to race again. Michael Schumacher said he is ready and, over the next few days, will undertake a specific training programme at the end of which confirmation will be given of his participation in the Championship with effect from the European Grand Prix on the 23rd of August'.

Massa's condition has improved markedly in recent days, and he is now speaking, sitting upright and taking his first steps. He is due to leave intensive care soon and his personal doctor is hugely positive - 'I have no doubt Felipe will race again'. When that will be remains unclear.
 

Jimass

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Good to see him back in a car.

I didn't see the crash but it sounds nasty! (Talking Felipe here...)
 

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I wouldn't say it's been a rough season. Sure there's been a lot of political bullshit in the background but at the end of the day this season has been one of the most exciting for years and this news is truly the icing on the cake!

I'm f***ing stoked!

As much as I dislike Ferrari and Schumacher I can't escape the fact that he is an absolute legend and it will be amazing to see how he fairs up against the new younger drivers like Hamilton and Vettel. THe Ferrari's have managed to regain their pace after a poor start to the season, as have the McLarens. Red Bull still have the best car on the grid but Brawn might pull something out of the bag and regain the form that they'd shown for the first half of the season.

Basically what this boils down to is that the performance difference between the big 2 and the 2 young pretenders is a lot less than it was at the start of the season and driver skill is going to be a much greater factor in the next few races!

Schumacher is going into the race weekend aged 40 without having spent any time behind the wheel of the car due to the in-season testing ban (although Fota are pushing to allow him a days practice under extraordinary circumstances). That could count against him, as could the drastic changes that have been made to the cars since he retired (he's not raced slicks since 1997 for starters and KERS was unheard of in his day). Still, he's a driving genius and seeing as Nigel Mansell won the world championship aged 39 (against both Senna and Schumacher, I might add), age isn't as great a factor as it might have been in that other great comeback story of the year - Lance Armstrong's case.

The only downside is I'm stuck on a boat that only receives Norwegian cable which doesn't appear to show F1...

:(
 

scblack

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I look forward to him racing too.:)

The only thing which could stop him racing, is a motorbike crash he had earlier this year, which injured his neck and back. He needs a doctors OK or something to step in the car for a real race.
 

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I look forward to him racing too.:)

The only thing which could stop him racing, is a motorbike crash he had earlier this year, which injured his neck and back. He needs a doctors OK or something to step in the car for a real race.
I doubt that'll be much of an issue.

Armstrong broke his collarbone and still managed Le Tour and Mark Webber missed the whole off-season testing programme due to breaking his leg.

Both have done pretty well considering
 

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I look forward to him racing too.:)

The only thing which could stop him racing, is a motorbike crash he had earlier this year, which injured his neck and back. He needs a doctors OK or something to step in the car for a real race.
Schumacher amazes me, i saw earlier in the year when he was doing some testing for Ducati, that he was one of the fastest test riders of all teams, does that man have a thing with motorsport or what?!

Should be good to see him back driving, very interested to see how he does against the new younger guys. ;)
 

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I doubt that'll be much of an issue.

Armstrong broke his collarbone and still managed Le Tour and Mark Webber missed the whole off-season testing programme due to breaking his leg.

Both have done pretty well considering
but lance armstrong wasn't subjected to the massive G forces that schumacher will have to deal with. even webbers leg wouldnt have been massively affected like schuwys neck will be.
 

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but lance armstrong wasn't subjected to the massive G forces that schumacher will have to deal with. even webbers leg wouldnt have been massively affected like schuwys neck will be.
What?

An F1 driver's neck is one of the most well protected parts of his body! Between the cramped cockpit, the helmet and the massive support brace they have to wear, the neck gets to sit there as one cosy little bugger. It's pretty bloody static throughout the race (if it weren't, there would be a lot more cases of paralysed drivers, that's for sure.

Anyway the G-forces have their biggest effect on the drivers extremities (i.e the arms and the legs)

Now a f***ed collarbone getting put through an absolute beasting for 4-5 hours a day over a 3 week period is a different kettle of fish altogether. Going into a massive gruelling masochistic endurance fest like Le Tour with any injury us going to require some nerve!
 

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What?

An F1 driver's neck is one of the most well protected parts of his body! Between the cramped cockpit, the helmet and the massive support brace they have to wear, the neck gets to sit there as one cosy little bugger. It's pretty bloody static throughout the race (if it weren't, there would be a lot more cases of paralysed drivers, that's for sure.

Anyway the G-forces have their biggest effect on the drivers extremities (i.e the arms and the legs)

Now a f***ed collarbone getting put through an absolute beasting for 4-5 hours a day over a 3 week period is a different kettle of fish altogether. Going into a massive gruelling masochistic endurance fest like Le Tour with any injury us going to require some nerve!
That's what i was thinking, just didn't post it 'cause i wasn't sure :eek: Those Hans devices (is that what most formula one drivers use?) seem to pretty damn good at doing there job! And as PoSM said, the necks are pretty static throughout the race, otherwise so many drivers would've thrown their neck out braking!

Out of interest, if Schumacher had a niggling collar bone, is there any supports or what not that he could use? Does the collarbone get thrown around to much in the race? Or would he just be told he wasn't aloud to race altogether?
 

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an f-1 drives neck takes a hamoring! thats why you seem them rest there head on the side of the car by the end of the race! who cares what scwhie dose. Alonso is the king in wating!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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As for me, Schumacher won enough prizes not to come back in F1. Or he needs more flame or money? Why not just to have a rest and enjoy the life? :confused:
 

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an f-1 drives neck takes a hamoring! thats why you seem them rest there head on the side of the car by the end of the race! who cares what scwhie dose. Alonso is the king in wating!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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scblack

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What?

An F1 driver's neck is one of the most well protected parts of his body! Between the cramped cockpit, the helmet and the massive support brace they have to wear, the neck gets to sit there as one cosy little bugger. It's pretty bloody static throughout the race (if it weren't, there would be a lot more cases of paralysed drivers, that's for sure.

Anyway the G-forces have their biggest effect on the drivers extremities (i.e the arms and the legs)
Quite the opposite actually, POSM.:)

The head and neck are the only loose and exposed parts of a F1 drivers body. The way they fit a "seat" to an F1 driver is snug, precise and does not allow any unwanted movement of the body. The legs are cramped into place - I remember Jacque Villenueve talked about only having 28mm of movement in his accelerator pedal, from off to full throttle.

F1 drivers exercise their necks like no other athlete. Michael Schumcher used to laze around his house with helmet on, with bricks strapped to the top of it to approximate some more g-forces.

Watch the in-car footage of a race, and the drivers helmet/head bounces around a hell of a lot, and don't forget those F1 helmets are HEAVY.

The HANS device is the only item to help a drivers neck. It has to move around for vision otherwise they may as well be looking down a telescope.

An F1 driver's neck is one of the most well protected parts of his body!
The neck is the most UNprotected part of his body.
 

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Watch the in-car footage of a race, and the drivers helmet/head bounces around a hell of a lot, and don't forget those F1 helmets are HEAVY.

The HANS device is the only item to help a drivers neck. It has to move around for vision otherwise they may as well be looking down a telescope.

The neck is the most UNprotected part of his body.
F1.com did a write up on the helmets recently, 1250grams doesn't sound that heavy?

f1.com said:
The typical weight of a Formula One helmet is a remarkably minimal 1250 grams. The lighter the helmet, the less weight it adds to the driver’s head under extreme G-forces, which in turn lessens the risk of whiplash-type injuries when something goes wrong.
 

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Quite the opposite actually, POSM.:)

The head and neck are the only loose and exposed parts of a F1 drivers body. The way they fit a "seat" to an F1 driver is snug, precise and does not allow any unwanted movement of the body. The legs are cramped into place - I remember Jacque Villenueve talked about only having 28mm of movement in his accelerator pedal, from off to full throttle.

F1 drivers exercise their necks like no other athlete. Michael Schumcher used to laze around his house with helmet on, with bricks strapped to the top of it to approximate some more g-forces.

Watch the in-car footage of a race, and the drivers helmet/head bounces around a hell of a lot, and don't forget those F1 helmets are HEAVY.

The HANS device is the only item to help a drivers neck. It has to move around for vision otherwise they may as well be looking down a telescope.

The neck is the most UNprotected part of his body.
Alright, I'll concede a drivers neck does take a fair beating during a race but my original argument of it being incomparable to the effects of 3 weeks in the saddle at full pelt on an injury during le tour still stands.

And 1250g being heavy for a helmet?

try wearing one of these 14 kilo buggers ;)

 
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