Mt Buller - All you need to know

andy73

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Here's a bit of GoPro footage of the road gap. It's about 7 foot high and a fair gap over the road. Super smooth landing though. Nice to have a B and C line as well. The B line is a great way to build up to the big one.

http://youtu.be/MIclnqOeAFk
 

Mywifesirrational

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I would argue the opposite. I find Delatite a bit ho hum. It is basically just a lot of fire road with some cool bridges. The Epic on the other hand is singletrack that is a heap of fun. Remember that is is new. Give it a year or two and the rocks will grow out of the trail and green stuff will close in on the edges. (I rode on a new model Reign that was a size too big).
Theres just something fun about hitting water bars flat out and the scenery that make the delatite awesome.

Maybe in a year or two I'll give it another go, not sure if I can put my finger on it exactly why, but I tend not to be overly excited about world trails work. Although I presume they did gang gangs, split rock, cornhill I quite like those trails, the ups are as interesting as the downs.
 

---Matt---

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Here's a bit of GoPro footage of the road gap. It's about 7 foot high and a fair gap over the road. Super smooth landing though. Nice to have a B and C line as well. The B line is a great way to build up to the big one.

http://youtu.be/MIclnqOeAFk
I was up there hitting it on Boxing day and that video doesn't do it justice. It's awesome for them to finally have something that makes people think twice about (excluding the wall ride). It sounds like they're getting some assistance from the RMB to get the trails up to scratch as well. Maybe some more big things to come...?

I didn't end up hitting the smaller one; the run into it looked more sketchy than just hitting the bigger one with a bit more speed. Did you do the small one before the bigger one?

What are peoples thoughts on the changes to ABOM?
 

---Matt---

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Had a brief look before xmas - have they gravelled the entire track now? and turned the doubles into tables?

What else has been changed? Quite like Abom, just a simple fun track.
No, not sure where you got that impression from? There's one new tabletop about 2/3 of the way down but there weren't any jumps in that section previously. They only use the gravel where they need to try and reduce erosion or build a feature where there isn't enough existing soil/rock.

They've realigned a number of sections of track to try and add flow and reduce the feeling of "Straight line - CORNER!!!", especially in the 2nd half of the track.
 

cruxpitch

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Abom

Rode there yesterday after having 10 weeks off the bike due to having a spinal fusion. The only thing that really shits me overall is that slippery gravel that is used, especially in that first right hander. Initial jump is bigger but still fun. The rest of the track has changed a little with realignment. A fun little drop comes near the bottom switchbacks but check your speed coming into it.
The best berm on ABOM which was rock armoured is no more :( It is now just black powder which gets into everything. The line coming down into this has also changed making it harder to maintain your speed into this corner.
ABOM is still rough and is great fun. My lack of fitness added to the fun at Mt Buller.
Did not ride International this day as I was more concerned about surviving the day than riding multiple tracks.
Mt Buller is still a great place to ride, and there will be many more trips before the chairlifts stop running.

Cheers,
Rich
 

Mywifesirrational

I however am very normal. Trust me.
No, not sure where you got that impression from? There's one new tabletop about 2/3 of the way down but there weren't any jumps in that section previously. They only use the gravel where they need to try and reduce erosion or build a feature where there isn't enough existing soil/rock.

They've realigned a number of sections of track to try and add flow and reduce the feeling of "Straight line - CORNER!!!", especially in the 2nd half of the track.
AH ok, they posted on their facebook page that they were turing all the doubles in table tops.

I only swung by where copper head gets close to see only gravel, glad thats not the case otherwise it'll be as fun as the top half of copperhead.
 

John U

MTB Precision
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ABOM is still rough and is great fun. My lack of fitness added to the fun at Mt Buller.
Did not ride International this day as I was more concerned about surviving the day than riding multiple tracks.
Mt Buller is still a great place to ride, and there will be many more trips before the chairlifts stop running.

Cheers,
Rich
I rode Abom yesterday and found the changes really good. As quoted above I found I spent most of the day on it without getting bored or shaken to pieces. The brown powder they've laid down has taken some of impacts away from the rougher parts of the track. The realignment has made me ride some corners smoother. The new jumps keep it interesting enough to keep me coming back to try and perfect them or ride them faster. Got to to agree that the brown powder over the show off corner seems fairly pointless. I didn't have too many issues with the gravel.

I did spend some time tuning my bike yesterday, which I haven't done for a while, so this may have changed my impression of Abom also, but I think it's much more fun the way it is now.

Happy new year.
 
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ajay

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Yeah great changes to Abom, made it a much more enjoyable ride.

International is great too, the top section seems faster now, but still plenty of rough stuff that will bite you if you get of line. They've done away with the chicken wire in favour of a much more rider/tyre friendly rubber matting on the wooden berms, also at the end of the top section, the exit of the wooden berm is wide open now with no head clipping trees in that steep corner.
The road gap is a great addition, easy to hit, and imo a needed addition to a track that was begging for more airtime - just be careful in the berm leading into it, super loose!

Get up there!
 

a-line

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I've just made a last minute decision & booked 3 nights on the mountain. I'll be riding the dh tracks on Monday & Tuesday if anyone's up for a few skids :)
I'll be on a black Devinci Wilson
 

onlock

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me and a few mates are looking a heading up next weekend to do a mixture of the dh and am? style tracks. just trying to make some sense of the bike buller website. am i right in thinking that if we get the Unlimited Northside Express chair lift day pass: $60 per person ticket that will cover us to ride all the tracks?

if we say want to do klingsporn or delatite river trails down to mirimbah would this pass cover us for the shuttle back up or do we have to pay the extra $15 per run?

and last one. the site says the chair lift pass is available from the chairlift during operating hours so i assume this means we dont need to book in advance

cheers
kyle
 

John U

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Shuttle and lift passes are separate costs. If you want to ride the DH trails you'll need a lift pass. If you want to ride Klingsporn and Delatite River trails you'll need to pay for the shuttle.

Just rock up to the lift top station and buy a ticket there. They take cash and have eftpos. No booking needed.

You'd be wise to book the shuttle from Mirimbah for a couple of reasons, weekday and weekend shuttle times differ so you'll want to be up to speed with your departure times, and 2ndly you'll want to make sure you all get on it.

Value for money wise, I'd recommend shuttles one day, chairlift the other. The gaps between the shuttles may mean you could have a bit of a wait at Mirimbah depending on how fast you get down.

I took a bunch of punters on the downhill trails for a day last year. They struggled. I reckon this year the pace (ie time between the shuttles), and less technical nature of the Delatite river trail would be more suited to them.

When you think of the effort and cost involved, $15 a trip for the shuttle is very good value. It's just that you'd be taking time out of your potential downhill runs if you did both on the same day. Another option would be leave your can in Mirimbah for the day, get the first shuttle up and get dropped off at the top of the Horse Hill chair, and then ride back down to Mirimbah at the end of the day. Only problem is you don't have access to your car for the day if you need anything out of it.
 

Beej1

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... if we get the Unlimited Northside Express chair lift day pass: $60 per person ticket that will cover us to ride all the tracks?
The chairlift will give you repeated runs of the horse hill 'DH' trails which start at or near top of chair, and finish the the lift line's lowest point. International is prob the most DH-esque trail there. ABOM is gnarly but not too hard, as is Yellow Post and Outlaw. Copperhead is smooth and fast, and easiest.

The chairlift won't help you for any of the XC trail network.

if we say want to do klingsporn or delatite river trails down to mirimbah would this pass cover us for the shuttle back up or do we have to pay the extra $15 per run
The latter. But can't comment on whether you can bulk buy shuttle rides. Anyone? FWIW you can get to Klingers from the DH trails ... they all cross it if you know where to turn off. Otherwise there may be a sign near the Copperhead trailhead. You can also get to Delatite from the DH trails ... pretty sure if you ride the Buller road to box corner it'll get you to the Delatite trail without much climbing. If you're on AM bikes you'd be well served heading down past village and climb to Gang Gangs as a way to hit Delatite. Perhaps someone can confirm.

...and last one. the site says the chair lift pass is available from the chairlift during operating hours so i assume this means we dont need to book in advance
That's where I've always paid, never booked. Only thing to look out for is if there's a DH race on.
 

John U

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Easy and best option to start Delatite River trail is to take the Gang Gangs across from the end of Chamois Close. It's easy to get to from Cow Camp and rideable on a downhill bike without too much discomfort. If you had an all mountain bike you could start it up higher, there's a few more climbs.

If you're getting the shuttle the drivers are usually excellent sources of knowledge for the trails.
 

onlock

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awesome. thanks guys. looks like we will shuttle up from the bottom in the morning, then use the chairlift for the day and take delatite back tot he car at the end of the day. can anyone compare any of the dh tracks to tracks at you yangs or maldon? couple of the guys are riding 120mm duallys and i just wanna make sure there not gonna die. where all competant riders and know our limits
 

Wednesday

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The only trail that might hurt your bike and/or you is International. I have a RM Slayer 70 and can pretty much hit up most of the mountain both ways. Obviously that's dependent on your tolerance to climbing/descending comfort. Hope to head up next week on a weeks leave . . . ahhhh.
 

Beej1

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can anyone compare any of the dh tracks to tracks at you yangs or maldon? couple of the guys are riding 120mm duallys and i just wanna make sure there not gonna die. where all competant riders and know our limits
My first time on the DH trails at Buller was on a 130mm Scott Genius bike - practically an XC bike by today's standards. It was bumpier than it is on my Nomad now, which is obviously bumpier than on a DH bike. But totally do-able and plenty of fun. The thing with the Buller DH trails is they're all doable on a XC hardtail if you want - speed is what turns them from ultra technical slow-n-sketchy XC descents into DH trails. I guess with the exception of International - there'd be a few points along that which would prob require a bit of leg-work to get over. Or, from another perspective, points which will land you in a stretcher if you push too far on the wrong kind of bike with a lack of skill.

Bear in mind that a full-face helmet is mandatory for the DH trails. Although I've never seen that policed to a great extent - especially since Copperhead (I think) is considered OK to ride with open face. Regardless of the rules - I always rock the FF down the DH trails and down Klingers.
 

Duane

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I took both my DH and Enduro last week, 3 out of 4 of the chairlift runs are doable on a trailbike, actually I'd even say they are faster on a trail/enduro than on the DH bike. Particularly Copperhead and Outlaw/Yellow Post, they are no problem for a competent rider on a XC bike. 120mm is plenty. Some mates rode Copperhead on their XC hardtails.
 
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