My wax based lube recipe

Good time to wax on about wax. I have a slow-cooker full of a 4-1 Paraffin to Beeswax mix, and I was going to add some molybdenum powder in for extra whatever. (it was cheaper than tungsten powder) has anyone added Molybdenum or tungsten powder to their wax brew?
CBF reading 13 pages of wax thread. 🤪
I bought the wax pellets from 'badger wax' on ebay and it came with a sachet of teflon, which I double-bagged and binned, TBH, I just said that because I'm not going to give it to anyone. NFI how to dispose of it 'safely', because while teflon has some good lubing properties, it's also toxic as fuck, and should not be anywhere near humans, animals or the environment.
 
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ForkinGreat said:
Good time to wax on about wax. I have a slow-cooker full of a 4-1 Paraffin to Beeswax mix, and I was going to add some molybdenum powder in for extra whatever. (it was cheaper than tungsten powder) has anyone added Molybdenum or tungsten powder to their wax brew?
CBF reading 13 pages of wax thread. 🤪
I bought the wax pellets from 'badger wax' on ebay and it came with a sachet of teflon, which I double-bagged and binned, TBH, I just said that because I'm not going to give it to anyone. NFI how to dispose of it 'safely', because while teflon has some good lubing properties, it's also toxic as fuck, and should not be anywhere near humans, animals or the environment.
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I tried teflon once, but found it just sat on the bottom of the pot. Unless you can grind it down impossibly fine and then keep the liquid mixed, there's no way it's finding its way in-between the parts.
 
ForkinGreat said:
Good time to wax on about wax. I have a slow-cooker full of a 4-1 Paraffin to Beeswax mix, and I was going to add some molybdenum powder in for extra whatever. (it was cheaper than tungsten powder) has anyone added Molybdenum or tungsten powder to their wax brew?
CBF reading 13 pages of wax thread. 🤪
I bought the wax pellets from 'badger wax' on ebay and it came with a sachet of teflon, which I double-bagged and binned, TBH, I just said that because I'm not going to give it to anyone. NFI how to dispose of it 'safely', because while teflon has some good lubing properties, it's also toxic as fuck, and should not be anywhere near humans, animals or the environment.
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Once upon a time I tried some of that stuff too. Should have used my brain before buying it, but it was a fun thing to try at least.
 
angryasian said:
Once upon a time I tried some of that stuff too. Should have used my brain before buying it, but it was a fun thing to try at least.
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I got lazy doing research and end up just chucking a bunch of $3 candles straight to $10 rice cooker from bigw. Dunk it in cold water after 1 hour of cooking. The wax don't last long - 2 weeks with 3-4 rides a week. Any more durable solution? Not sure if I want to go down the path of cooking beeswax with PTFE in it...
 
gippyz said:
I got lazy doing research and end up just chucking a bunch of $3 candles straight to $10 rice cooker from bigw. Dunk it in cold water after 1 hour of cooking. The wax don't last long - 2 weeks with 3-4 rides a week. Any more durable solution? Not sure if I want to go down the path of cooking beeswax with PTFE in it...
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Fuck teflon. don't put that shit in the environment.

I've been using a mix of pure paraffin granules/beads/whatever and beeswax, with no other additives.
Can't @$#%#$ remember the proportions. maybe a 1/4 or 1/3 beeswax and the rest paraffin wax.
shifting is great. & the beeswax softens the paraffin, I think, because the paraffin isn't shredding off like a mofo.
Cleanest freakin' drivetrain I've had for years.

There might be other things in the candles that harden the paraffin (if that's what's in the candles) as well as shitty chemicals that you definitely don't want to breathe in while waxing your chains.
 
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ForkinGreat said:
Fuck teflon. don't put that shit in the environment.

I've been using a mix of pure paraffin granules/beads/whatever and beeswax, with no other additives.
Can't @$#%#$ remember the proportions. maybe a 1/4 or 1/3 beeswax and the rest paraffin wax.
shifting is great. & the beeswax softens the paraffin, I think, because the paraffin isn't shredding off like a mofo.
Cleanest freakin' drivetrain I've had for years.

There might be other things in the candles that harden the paraffin (if that's what's in the candles) as well as shitty chemicals that you definitely don't want to breathe in while waxing your chains.
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I use paraffin oil to soften the paraffin wax, it's a lot cheaper than beeswax.
 
gippyz said:
I got lazy doing research and end up just chucking a bunch of $3 candles straight to $10 rice cooker from bigw. Dunk it in cold water after 1 hour of cooking. The wax don't last long - 2 weeks with 3-4 rides a week. Any more durable solution? Not sure if I want to go down the path of cooking beeswax with PTFE in it...
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Here you go.

www.buckleyandphillips.com.au

Paraffin Wax 1kg Bag | Buckley & Phillips - Australia

Paraffin Wax 1kg Bag - Pastillated paraffin wax Ideal for making pillar candles.
www.buckleyandphillips.com.au www.buckleyandphillips.com.au

I still haven't emptied my 1kg bag....... you only lose what sticks on the chain. Unless you overheat it and it loses it's lubrication properties.

2 weeks of 3-4 rides seems about right to me. I never cold dipped, just let it cool off by itself.
 
Haven't tried just the pure wax and wait method. Used to use a chain wax in a yellow tin that you put on the stove for motos ages ago. it contained wax and paraffin oil. A bloke on interwebs added a thinner (wax and grease remover or xylene) to make application easier in between clean and dunks. I haven't made any for ages but you mix of paraffin oil, wax and xylene (thinners). i added some orange oil for nice smell.
In winter in ADL it sets in the bottle and you need to heat it up to get it on the chain but summer is all good.
I still find a bit of dirt sticks around but better than oil based lubes by far.
 
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