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I thought not inheriting sins/burdens WAS part of the christian belief?wtr said:Umm..you would know the answer if you follow the christian faith...
I thought not inheriting sins/burdens WAS part of the christian belief?wtr said:Umm..you would know the answer if you follow the christian faith...
BUT, I recall reading the Good Book once upon a time, and came across somewhere in the garden of Eden, where God said to Adam and Eve:"..your offsprings will be born with the sin you now carry....because you tasted the forbidden fruit that I have warn you about..."S. said:I thought not inheriting sins/burdens WAS part of the christian belief?
I'm not sure myself, everything has been uni and bikes for me the last couple of weeks.wtr said:And what's happening to the UN security council seat Japan's after? I have been out of touch with the TV lately.
Originaljohnny said:I'm not sure myself, everything has been uni and bikes for me the last couple of weeks.
I might have to disagree with the author on Japan being a "U.S. puppet". I mean, wasn't America the one who's really behind the push for the seat? But everything else seems logical, but sounds intangible.China supports Japan's application for a U.N. Security Council seat?
Well I would certainly love to see such a situation. It would show a strong friendship between the two countries. However I am not so sure that this will happen.
Quite apart from feelings over WWII, I think Beijing will be more pragmatic. In the future, China may well clash with Japan over natural resources. The last thing the Chinese government would want is for Japan to have the confidence to defend her resources. Supporting an application for a permament seat on the Security Council would certainly do this. It would also encourage Japan to develop more of an offensive military capability.
Equally the simple fact that China is the only Asian power on the Security Council (I don't include Russia), puts it in a prominent position. It may wish to keep things that way. Indeed there is an argument that Russia and China may oppose any new permament members of the Security Council, as it would dilute their power.
However there is some hope. I think China could benefit a lot from supporting a Japanese application to the Security Council. Firstly, the Russians may oppose it anyway - the Chinese are then blameless. China could use it as a springboard to improve Sino-Japanese relations. The best way to obtain a "formal" apology over WWII would be to give Japan a tempting reward.
Also there is the future to think about. Japan's close ties to the US are partly because of the historic Communist hostility on the mainland and her own military insecurity. If Japan became a more self-assured and confident nation and if China could show Japan that it really wanted to be friends, far from being a "U.S. puppet", I think Japan would be an excellent partner for China in the future. A Sino-Japanese alliance would severly marginalise American power in the Pacific and make it easier to China to operate in the region. If China doesn't make such a gesture, Japan will continue to look to the U.S. for support.
As to whether I think Japan should become a permament member? Well yes, I can't see anything wrong with it. Japan has always been the U.N.'s largest financial contributor, so I think it's fair that she have greater influence in it. Koizumi's reforms have made it possible for the JSDF to deploy as a peacekeeping force, so Japan could also help out in future U.N. missions.
Political disputes shouldn't get in the way of reforming such an important international organisation. The objections of some of the forums members are childish.
2005-01-03 01:34
And a different voice on the issue.Seoul seeks to thwart Japan's bid for UN Security Council seat
By Anna Fifield in Seoul and David Pilling in Japan
Published: April 2 2005 03:00 | Last updated: April 2 2005 03:00
South Korea yesterday signalled it would seek to block Japan's attempt to win a permanent seat on the United Nations Security Council - a move likely to trigger bitter resentment in Tokyo which has put enormous store on gaining more international influence.
Amid increasing tension over islands disputed by the two countries, Seoul strongly opposed Japan's application, which is also being vociferously challenged by China and North Korea.
Ahh yeah. I was pretty sure it said somewhere else that you can't be held responsible for what your parents etc have done. Hmm, a (possible) contradiction in the bible, who'd have thunk it.wtr said:BUT, I recall reading the Good Book once upon a time, and came across somewhere in the garden of Eden, where God said to Adam and Eve:"..your offsprings will be born with the sin you now carry....because you tasted the forbidden fruit that I have warn you about..."
Irrelevant to the topic, but hope that explains why I think like that.
And what's happening to the UN security council seat Japan's after? I have been out of touch with the TV lately.
Well if Japan is heavily influenced by the US then think of how much power the US would have if it effectively controled two UNSC seats.wtr said:[I might have to disagree with the author on Japan being a "U.S. puppet". I mean, wasn't America the one who's really behind the push for the seat? But everything else seems logical, but sounds intangible.
Nice claim (well not really with the get out of gaol card that your tactical little (possible) represents, but still an inflection towards the claims ultimate veracity with a nice little tabloid-esque "Who'd have thunk it") but wherest thine evidence?S. said:Ahh yeah. I was pretty sure it said somewhere else that you can't be held responsible for what your parents etc have done. Hmm, a (possible) contradiction in the bible, who'd have thunk it.
Don't have any, I just thought it was something I'd read or been told at some stage. I may be wrong.johnny said:Nice claim (well not really with the get out of gaol card that your tactical little (possible) represents, but still an inflection towards the claims ultimate veracity with a nice little tabloid-esque "Who'd have thunk it") but wherest thine evidence?
You could work for Murdoch with credentials like thatS. said:Don't have any, I just thought it was something I'd read or been told at some stage. I may be wrong.
It does sound a bit concerning. I wouldn't doubt that they will exploit that advantage to stir up more shit in the Arabic region.Well if Japan is heavily influenced by the US then think of how much power the US would have if it effectively controled two UNSC seats.
I doubt it, I don't think I pushed it quite hard enough as "fact"johnny said:You could work for Murdoch with credentials like that
Oh, you're the only person that's been passed Australian shores?goosehead said:As far as Japan being a puppet, some of you spindoctors could say the same thing for Australia. The thing is, spend a little time OS and you'll realize.......