NEW Giant DH Bike!
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kill_switch
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Also no iBeam on any of the Glory's this year.
What do you guys think of the weight difference between a iBeam and the seat setup that the current Glory's have?
What do you guys think of the weight difference between a iBeam and the seat setup that the current Glory's have?
I hate the iBeam. Had one on my Yakuza. What's the weight difference between an iBeam set up and a Sunline V1 saddle and thompson seat post cut down, bugger all?
kill_switch
Dead-set Idiot
Not sure, I cant guess at the Price difference though
Also iBeams seem to be indestructible
Nope, I have a broken one to prove it.
kill_switch
Dead-set Idiot
Haha no comment on the price ah?
Ivan
Eats Squid
Thompson elite ~228g
Sunline V1 ~ 207g
SDG I Beam post ~220g
SDG I-Fly 145g or Bel Air SL 185g
Tazed
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Comments like that make me realise how few people know how these things work.
Yes, Giant has done a deal with every single component supplier you see on their bikes.
Production runs are measured in the tens-of-thousands, possibly hundreds-of-thousands on some models.
That gives you buying power to negotiate wholesale discounts - say 100,000 seatposts at a few bucks less per piece.
Run that equation over a whole bike's components and you see where the savings, and thus profits, come into it.
Even better is so-called 'in house' brands (in this case, the Giant branded components other than the frame).
They may or may not be made by Giant, but they are definitely cheaper to produce (regardless of quality, which may even be better than 3rd party, well-known brands) and so the profit margin creeps up again.
This is why you see spec change during model years, let alone each model year.
They're always looking to make a buck, so they'll spec one product over another (assuming equal or similar function) if it makes them more money.
Sometimes, to add to the mix, they might not be able to even get supply of a product (due to lots of factors, one famous one a few years back being Shimano couldn't manufacture enough components as the Chinese were buying up their metal suppliers products at a price they couldn't afford!).
That probably has less to do with i-Beam/SDG not being on the bike than the product manager got international feedback saying customers preferred a traditional railed saddle, though!
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Wisey
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I smashed one to bits...far from indestructable, wouldn't ever use one again.
Captain Sensible
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Need to replace the V1 with a Selle SLR ~ 135g. Does get a bit pricey though.
Ivan
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Nah, just buy the I-beam.
What exactly in your entire comment differs from what I said? I implied that Fizik obviously offered/Giant sought a better deal than SDG did, hence why they seemingly have the contract to supply Giant seats for almost their entire range judging by my last visit to my LBS. Last time I checked SDG don't only make I-beam saddles either.
Like you suggest there probably is a lot more to it, but lets face it neither you (probably) or I are in the position to be able to make definitive statements on the situation, yeah?
Tomshak
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Oh you are one lucky bastard....
*jealousy jealousy jealousy*
sedition.
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The colour scheme on the dh0 is very catchy but I don't dig the general look of it. It looks a little too much like other bikes, thus a little generic. However I might change my tune if I saw it in the flesh.
It's a real shame we don't get the Reign SX brought down under, super nice.
It's a real shame we don't get the Reign SX brought down under, super nice.