Paleo and every other ridiculous fad!

[Jaredp]

I posted this here as the person who engaged this rant is by no means into mountain biking. The diversity of people here would have everyone from hardcore athletes to casual beernpedal guys.

What the FUCK is with these fad diets and freaking Paleo. Now bear in mind I have done about 3 seconds of research into this but I am stunned to think this has caught on... Do people really need a tag or name for basically eating fresh food. Are they that emotionally starved they need a label to satisfy their lives?

I eat Paleo and post a pic of a bowl of lettuce and boiled steak. Just fuckin fry it and put less dressing on your Caesar salad.

Then I see this ridiculous recipe for "clean" coffee. How is coffee Paleo I ask ? Let alone the butter (yes, butter ) and coconut oil. Not only is this a mockery of the ideal of Paleo, it's just plain bad for you. The calorie intake alone from this drink.....

Tea, I could get. Leaf in hot water, then drink. But what tosser says no to cake, 'cause that not Paleo. A caveman wouldn't have access to that and then have an espresso.

I swear to god if you feel the need to identify your eating habits with this label, you deserve to sleep with a crystal in your ear and a healing pyramid over your head.

 

[pharmaboy]

Surely you know that palaeolithic man didn't suffer from cancer, diabetes or heart disease and that is most likely to do with their diet?

 

[moorey]

Surely you know that palaeolithic man didn't suffer from cancer, diabetes or heart disease and that is most likely to do with their diet?

Crock of shit. Those diseases have always been around, just not diagnosed and named, FFS.

Yes, fad diets and naming every variation seems silly to me also...it's not like our beloved sport would be guilty of that... :whistle:

 

[Halo1]

I must admit I have put on a few pounds since I stopped eating dinosaur and chasing my food around all night. So what is the next diet fad going to be? Maybe a Viking diet as we move through the ages.

 

[pharmaboy]

I was reading an article on this question, and the recent history of the paleo diet has it's genesis in an anti vegetarian movement. Essentially, the vegetarian movement claimed that the natural diet for humans was very low or lacking in meat, but a number of studies showed that the change from hunter gatherer to early agriculture actually caused a decline in age of the average adult ( ie excluding infant and childhood mortality)

So people being people, the obvious thing to do when you see correlation is to assume causation - hence the paleo diet came to the fore with a level of "proof"?

From a science skeptic POV, it's a false conclusion because data is bereft, and very muddied because agriculture also brought closeness of populations and hence disease - further, agriculture was a hard physical life on the body and greatly exposed populations to poor crop yields from seasonal variation. Those conditions do not effect western peoples choosing a diet not on availability but on personal choice.

Interestingly through the Middle Ages in England, a lifespan of an adult from the gentry ( ie someone whose life was t shortened by work and poor nutrition) once making it to adulthood was in the order of mid 60s to 70.

 

[pharmaboy]

Crock of shit. Those diseases have always been around, just not diagnosed and named, FFS.

Yes, fad diets and naming every variation seems silly to me also...it's not like our beloved sport would be guilty of that... :whistle:

Of course, just testing my memory, but are you vegetarian Moorey?

If so, what are the reasons?

 

[johnny]

I'm a level seven vegan, I don't eat anything that casts a shadow.

 

[moorey]

Of course, just testing my memory, but are you vegetarian Moorey?

If so, what are the reasons?

I'm a vegan because I don't see the need to eat/wear animals. Have been for almost 20 years. Stop trying to divert attention from your Moronic claim, care to back it up?... :whistle:

 

[moorey]

I'm a level seven vegan, I don't eat anything that casts a shadow.

Shadows are an important part of the food chain. Murderer!:mmph:

 

[Pastavore]

It's all just marketing. People put labels on things so that they can sell them, because they sound new and different. And because a lot of us are fat and unhappy, we buy right into it.



I am a level eight vegan. My bicycle frame is made out of lentil-fibre and I am currently sponsoring three marmosets through their post-graduate degrees in socialist studies.

 

[pharmaboy]

I'm a vegan because I don't see the need to eat/wear animals. Have been for almost 20 years. Stop trying to divert attention from your Moronic claim, care to back it up?... :whistle:

Dude, you so missed the sarcasm ! Lol. The OP is on the money - it's the Fad diet to go alongside eat fat, the Atkins, the liver cleansing etc etc.

So you are a vegan on ethical grounds then. There seems a split on vegans whereby some are ethically opposed and some throw in a good proportion of it must be healthier on some evolutionary ground - that second group was part of the pendulum that gave rise to paleo

 

[pharmaboy]

I'm a level seven vegan, I don't eat anything that casts a shadow.

Lol, it's Level 5 though, get your Simpson s right!

Fortunately , you can still eat vampires though

 

[moorey]

Dude, you so missed the sarcasm ! Lol. The OP is on the money - it's the Fad diet to go alongside eat fat, the Atkins, the liver cleansing etc etc.

So you are a vegan on ethical grounds then. There seems a split on vegans whereby some are ethically opposed and some throw in a good proportion of it must be healthier on some evolutionary ground - that second group was part of the pendulum that gave rise to paleo

Why should anyone give a fuck why I'm vegan? Or why people are going Paleo?
At least they are giving some thought about what they put in their bodies, unlike 95% of the fuckwits out there.
As stated, I think it's silly, but.... :llama:

 

[Pastavore]

At least they are giving some thought about what they put in their bodies, :llama:

Like bags of fish hooks?

 

[fatboyonabike]

how the fuck would early man have boiled a steak???.
a much more probable scenario would have been that he applied heat to some sort of hard surface which transfers that heat, thus frying said piece of deconstructed animal.

 

[swaz]

New diet just out called 27.5. Very similar to the original 26.0 diet but different enough from the very popular 29er diet everyone was on recently. If you aren't on the 27.5 diet then you are a loser and I don't understand you.

I have done the Primal way of life before and never felt better! I am just lazy and work in a place that is always surrounded by crap food and never stuck to it.

It is interesting that people get so angry and outraged at what other people do when it doesn't really affect them. Unless they are knocking on your door at 9pm and making you look at pics of their meals or trying to indoctrinate you into their cult then why does it bother you?

People buy Thermomixes for $2000+ to replace things in their kitchen they already own... Who cares!! People are still buying diet pills and detox pills... who cares?
Be outraged about factory animal farming, caged eggs and live exports.

And watch this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIho2S0ZahI

 

[pharmaboy]

Why should anyone give a fuck why I'm vegan? Or why people are going Paleo?
At least they are giving some thought about what they put in their bodies, unlike 95% of the fuckwits out there.
As stated, I think it's silly, but.... :llama:

Why? Because some vegans base it on evolutionary principles and as a " natural diet" that is healthier - that would be the same false justification as the paleo diet.

Any strict diet tends towards lower calorie input because your choices are less IMO .

Anyway, no way am I ever eating a Llama.

Alpacas FTW

 

[swaz]

Why? Because some vegans base it on evolutionary principles and as a " natural diet" that is healthier - that would be the same false justification as the paleo diet.

Any strict diet tends towards lower calorie input because your choices are less IMO .

Anyway, no way am I ever eating a Llama.

Alpacas FTW

Out of interest, what is the false justification on evolutionary principals of the paleo and/or vegan diet?

 

[Shadow Puppet]

Crock of shit. Those diseases have always been around, just not diagnosed and named, FFS.

Yes, fad diets and naming every variation seems silly to me also...it's not like our beloved sport would be guilty of that... :whistle:

So you're saying that the high amount of chemicals that are used in today's food, packaging, washing products, clothing et has causes no more cancer than what was around before we started using them? I think you will find research does not agree with you Moorey.
I'm no veggie or on any special diet but I do try to cut down on foods that use pesticides or are highly processed as it doesn't take a genius to realise that these can't be good for us or our kids.

Who the fu©£ cares what diet the other person is on?

id rather have a mate on some paleo diet than one who was an intolerant dick. (and that comment is not directed at you Moorey, more the Op.)

How many fads do mountain bikers get caught up in? So, some people are into eating healthy like you are into mountain biking and they want to try something new. Again, who cares.?

 

[pharmaboy]

Out of interest, what is the false justification on evolutionary principals of the paleo and/or vegan diet?

Use of life expectancy for adults in paleolithic era versus Neolithic plus the claims of what our species is designed for in a food context. It's a nefarious area with not enough information to provide proof, but as always good convincing arguments can be put on any side that falsely portray a grey area as black and white