Scotty T
Walks the walk
Further information on my "it's bullshit" argument, nuclear energy is never profitable.
Plastic bags, climate change, renewable energy,
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Squidfayce
Eats Squid
Singularly they're not large. A farm of them every couple hundred meters, pretty big
Haakon
has an accommodating arse
And your point is? The ocean is traditionally considered pretty spacious...
Squidfayce
Eats Squid
My question, not my point, was; is it actually Scalable enough to take care of the world's power needs 50-100 years from now?
pink poodle
気が狂っている男
How far are we from harnessing lunar power?
Haakon
has an accommodating arse
On its own? Dunno, but it wont be on its own. Lots of genuinely renewable tech is being deployed, and the current big focus is storage which massively increases the utility/productivity etc of renewables.
Offshore is pretty freaking big - theyre up to 3MW each now, 200m high. Monsters you wont get up on land and bring huge efficiencies of scale. Some pretty big farms in the North Sea, one of the world's busiest shipping routes and I think they manage ok - ships thankfully have steering
Bear in mind also that electricity demand is not going up as fast as you might think.
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Scotty T
Walks the walk
They call it "solar"
Harnessing power from nature and storing it can solve the problem, with current technology. Burning shit to make electricity is so 1800's.
We have to consume less too. How many people on here have done house improvements? How important was energy efficiency in those improvements? It is the top priority for us and we've locked in with architects who specialise in it, to spend more money doing it properly and reducing heating and cooling energy use massively. 99% of people don't give a fuck about it as shown by watching any expisode of The Block, our pathetic building codes and corrupt industry heads lead to rubbish being constructed that has terrible energy efficiency and falls apart in 5 years. People from Europe shake their heads at how shit our houses are.
Squidfayce
Eats Squid
Consuming less and paying more for more efficiency is not on the agenda, as you've clearly identified, for 99% of people. I think it's naive to think that will change in any material way in our lifetimes.
pink poodle
気が狂っている男
I think a lot of people have made significant efforts to reduce their energy consumption. Whether that has been for reducing their expenses or saving the planet I don't know. I am fairly certain they are still the minority, but a much bigger % than 1.
Technological developments will also play a role. Things like more efficient hot water systems or refrigerators. And a focus on less disposable cheap items around the house, like throw away toasters.
Haakon
has an accommodating arse
Squidfayce
Eats Squid
I doubt it. Obsolescence is built into everything these days. Cheap and expensive alike. Energy consumption for making these things can't be discounted either.
While consumerism is the norm (and it will be for any foreseeable future), I don't see this changing.
I guess we can hope for tech advancements. Probably the only thing we can hope for realistically
We're doing a fairly extensive renovation/re-imagining of a flat-roof 1960s house at the moment, and getting it past the energy rater was not easy.
Needless to say there is a lot of double glazing and tricky insulation required.
Scotty T
Walks the walk
It's the actual issue.
Yes, it is far too much to ask first world people not to be greedy cunts
Never mind the poor fuckers in Central Africa, I want my McMansion with home theater goddamnit!
Scotty T
Walks the walk
Gonna be a breeze for us, that why we hired these peeps.
Squidfayce
Eats Squid
Yep and zero being done to adress it. So not likley to change.
Don't forget bitcoin mining.
Yep. Building another one right now. Bigger than the last one. For 2 people.Yes, it is far too much to ask first world people not to be greedy cunts
My contribution to the planet is not having children, so ima keep the lights on during the day if I want
Oddjob
Merry fucking Xmas to you assholes
Regardless of energy source you still need to transmit and distribute it.They call it "solar"
Harnessing power from nature and storing it can solve the problem, with current technology. Burning shit to make electricity is so 1800's.
We have to consume less too. How many people on here have done house improvements? How important was energy efficiency in those improvements? It is the top priority for us and we've locked in with architects who specialise in it, to spend more money doing it properly and reducing heating and cooling energy use massively. 99% of people don't give a fuck about it as shown by watching any expisode of The Block, our pathetic building codes and corrupt industry heads lead to rubbish being constructed that has terrible energy efficiency and falls apart in 5 years. People from Europe shake their heads at how shit our houses are.
Solar and wind is only commercially viable when it is placed near currently installed transmission infrastructure. If new transmission infrastructure is required the low energy density works against it and usually sinks the business case.
This combined with the limitations of storage, is what allows oddball small scale diesel generators to exist in the suburbs of Adelaide, operate a few hours a year and still make huge profits.
The state and federal govts have plans to subsidise renewal hubs but there was nothing up and running from what I could see.
Small scale rooftop solar gets around the transmission problem but then you need to revise the distribution networks to deal with 2 way flows through sub stations to storage sites.
Discussions around baseload aren't the issue here it's energy density and the physical and economic limits to suitable renewable sites.
I'm hopeful that the Terrapower reactor will be successful as the first true modular small scale 4th gen reactor. If the the Wyoming plant is successful, the world would have a zero carbon energy option that would be a local optimum where renewable energy options hit physical or economic constraints.
Small scale modular reactors are unlikely to be the lowest cost option, but they will exist somewhere on the zero carbon supply curve the world will probably hit in order to keep warming below 2°c.
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rockmoose
his flabber is totally gastered
I look forward to one being installed in Dover Heights, and the arguments between Vaucluse and Double Bay as to what colour it should be.
Oddjob
Merry fucking Xmas to you assholes
Imagine if you tried to install offshore wind off Dover Heights...
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nzhumpy
Googlemeister who likes bikes and scandal
Flow-Rider
Burner
That's it, I'm going to live in an earth ship, fuck the power grid and all its problems.