Plastic bags, climate change, renewable energy,

Binaural

Binaural

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The nacelles can move a heap in even low wind conditions. I recall from a structural engineer that if you were ever to hit the emergency stop in a moving turbine, the whole thing would move 2m sideways fast enough to injure you pretty badly. The weight of the nacelle is the big cost driver so the whole thing is quite flexible.
 
Mr Crudley

Mr Crudley

Glock in your sock
fatboyonabike said:
I would love to see the stats on how many single use plastic bags are saved from landfill in the production of these kiddy chokers!
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Just saw the ad for this one. Proof that a crack pipe recently did the rounds at the Coles marketing department.

Can't they just make their prices comparable to Aldi and also adopt the coin rental model for trolleys so they don't end up all around the neighbourhood by people who should know better.

Anyhow, I shouldn't worry too much. I only ever go to Coles if I really need cat food. Aldi all the way, I'm done with the grocery duopoly cartel.

I'm sure Woolies will do something equally stupid soon to keep up. They are good for it.


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Flow-Rider

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fatboyonabike said:
https://thenewdaily.com.au/money/consumer/2018/07/16/coles-little-shop-collectables-brands/
Good on you Coles, you fucking idiots!
are we not trying to reduce the amount of useless single use plastics in our society, and consider a more sustainable model..
I would love to see the stats on how many single use plastic bags are saved from landfill in the production of these kiddy chokers!
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Everything within the plastic has plastic in it, even the cans have a polymer coating.
 
steve jobs' pancreas

steve jobs' pancreas

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fatboyonabike said:
https://thenewdaily.com.au/money/consumer/2018/07/16/coles-little-shop-collectables-brands/
Good on you Coles, you fucking idiots!
are we not trying to reduce the amount of useless single use plastics in our society, and consider a more sustainable model..
I would love to see the stats on how many single use plastic bags are saved from landfill in the production of these kiddy chokers!
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I would argue the word "ornamental" is being used very loosely here.
 
Dozer

Dozer

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Just to reiterate how much of a clusterfuck I see this Woolworths bag thing; I picked up my groceries last night and put the 8 bags I'd been supplied with in my household rubbish bin. You know those bad boys with the swinging lid? Yeah, one of them. Anyway, the new bags filled that rubbish whereas the old bags that I used to keep were all stored in a lunchbox that I use for picking up dog shit.
Even filling the older bags with dog shit takes up less space than these new heaps of crap totally scrunched up. What a joke.
 
droenn

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Binaural

Binaural

Eats Squid
^^^ Some places that deliver ready-made meals just ask you to leave your cooler boxes out for exchange, easy.

Calvin27 said:
I thought biodegradable bags were the devil's work? Don't they like break into smaller pieces and crap all over the environment?
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That's the problem. Well-meaning people are going to think a biodegradable disposable bag is a good option to a reusable bag, but as you point out there's no damn difference other than breakdown (which doesn't happen unless conditions are just right). Similar situation for so-called compostable bags, which need to be done at a small number of specific facilities.
 
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Binaural

Binaural

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Basically, the message that isn't necessarily getting out to consumers is that there are no good options for disposable bags.
 
Dozer

Dozer

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droenn said:
Use these for your dog shit: https://au.iherb.com/pr/Beco-Pets-E...VV3RgCh3dJA2gEAQYASABEgJJ-PD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

Use these for your bin liner: http://www.goinggreensolutions.com.au/compost-a-pak-bin-liners-various-sizes.html (or no bin liner)

Use these for your shopping: https://www.artisticden.com.au/collections/calico-shopping-bag

No more plastic bags.... done.

If there is no option for this with online shopping, well thats reason enough not to use it.
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Cheers, I'll grab those dog shit bags.
I'd prefer Woolies to just put it straight in the trolley and I put it in some boxes when I get it to the car, no bags at all that way for me.
 
droenn

droenn

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Binaural said:
That's the problem. Well-meaning people are going to think a biodegradable disposable bag is a good option to a reusable bag, but as you point out there's no damn difference other than breakdown (which doesn't happen unless conditions are just right). Similar situation for so-called compostable bags, which need to be done at a small number of specific facilities.
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Fair enough, I'll have to research some more.
 
droenn

droenn

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Well I learned a bit about bioplastics today. Yeah, they aren't as good as the are sold to be.

I had a look at a few papers which gave some indication that they have a lot more potential in future, and in terms of GHG emissions to produce are lower.

Here's a good rundown on some other apsects of them:
https://www.science.org.au/curious/earth-environment/future-plastics

I'd use them above petroleum plastics, but only when there is no option to not use something (or nothing) else entirely.
 
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