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Browndog77

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You can also look at fields where there's a need or room for growth.

IT, crime related stuff, eco tourism?

Mechanical engineering is cool, my brother in law is one and frigging rocks at it. He designs, draws and controls the building of forestry equipment and low loader trailers. Very bloody clever bloke. Being a bike mechanic would be great, but prepare to be not rolling in money.

Also, remember that if you are doing something you love, you will find it easier to go without the material things in life.

Good luck mate
 
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Sorry to rain on the eng circle-jerk, but if you are unsure about your career path, forget eng. You'll be pigeonholed with a skillset that is not really transferable to anything outside eng.

My advice - keep it broad, do a law degree, and learn how the world actually works. Law will give you the ability to critically analyse issues and provide a grasp of society and institutions like nothing else will, plus you'll end up with and a skillset that is well respected in many industries and can be applied to a wide range of careers.
 
MasterOfReality

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Link said:
Sorry to rain on the eng circle-jerk, but if you are unsure about your career path, forget eng. You'll be pigeonholed with a skillset that is not really transferable to anything outside eng.

My advice - keep it broad, do a law degree, and learn how the world actually works. Law will give you the ability to critically analyse issues and provide a grasp of society and institutions like nothing else will, plus you'll end up with and a skillset that is well respected in many industries and can be applied to a wide range of careers.
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More like gift of the gab if anything else.

I know engineers that completed MBA's or PhD's part time and have gone on and worked at places like McKinsey, Bain, Boston, Booze etc etc.

Analytical skills are highly valued outside engineering.

You only pidgeonhole yourself if you are content to let that happen.
 
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MasterOfReality said:
More like gift of the gab if anything else.

I know engineers that completed MBA's or PhD's part time and have gone on and worked at places like McKinsey, Bain, Boston, Booze etc etc.

Analytical skills are highly valued outside engineering.

You only pidgeonhole yourself if you are content to let that happen.
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So your argument is that you can work for those firms if you have an engineering degree, as long as you supplement that degree with a Master in something else or a PHD? I'm not sure that's quite the rebuttal you were hoping for.

My point is that with a law degree sitting on your transcript you open up a more diverse range of professional possibilities than you would with, say, Mech Engineering. In circumstances where you're having to choose your future straight out of high school, finding the right balance between specialisation and keeping options open is a valuable thing.
 
MasterOfReality

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So your argument is that you can work for those firms if you have an engineering degree, as long as you supplement that degree with a Master in something else or a PHD? I'm not sure that's quite the rebuttal you were hoping for.

My point is that with a law degree sitting on your transcript you open up a more diverse range of professional possibilities than you would with, say, Mech Engineering. In circumstances where you're having to choose your future straight out of high school, finding the right balance between specialisation and keeping options open is a valuable thing.
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Whats this diverse range you speak of?

Are they outside the realms of law related areas and achievable without further study?
 
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After going through yr12 with no idea what I wanted to do and picking subjects that were not highly scaled I am now in the dilemma of trying to get into a course that requires and above 90atar without anywhere near that. Moral of that part is dont do easy courses from lack of decision. (Lucky as an overage student now here are channels to do so)

Uni is where you will have the option to really move forward and choose more decisions, for that I'd suggest going with high ranked but also wide use subjects, health, physics, engineering, adv math adv English, business and IT.

Keep in mind you need to do subjects that you will excel at too. Doing a adv course and getting 50percent won't do much you would be better off doing general and getting in the 90's.

Because many if us probably don't quick know the current course rankings or you own level of intelligence you should speak to your career advisor at school.

In hindsight the HSC is about getting a high ATAR for uni not really about doing what you want just yet.
If you know what you want find out what those uni courses expect you to have at the HSC level and so them.
Otherwise if I was to do it again with no idea where I wanted to go I would pick wide used subjects for uni and high ranked subjects and adv where possible. Health, math, sciences, English, IT, business, get a wide range of knowledge and high marks to give you the most available to you at uni.

Just my opinion though I'd highly suggest you speak to someone in the know at your school or even at the uni.

To me Hsc is pretty much a equation (you do subject abcd to get the highest ATAR you can while including subjects your uni course expects [obviously only if you know what uni purse your doing])
 
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downhillar

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Link said:
Sorry to rain on the eng circle-jerk, but if you are unsure about your career path, forget eng. You'll be pigeonholed with a skillset that is not really transferable to anything outside eng.
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Ok, well that's incorrect. I know engineers that have gone on to work as investment bankers for Commonwealth Bank, managers of smaller non-engineering companies as they will often have great organisational, costing and communication skills, or even managers of bigger engineering firms where your job has very little to do with actual engineering and everything to do with running a billion dollar company!

Besides, how can you read a post about a guy who says he likes to know how things work, is hands on, would like to be a world cup bike mechanic, enjoys maths and physics and then tell him that he would be better suited to a friggin law degree of all things!!


Anyway, the last post about ATAR scores is pretty true so take some of that on board but also do your own research.

I sounded a lot like you a few years ago. Loved tinkering and doing stuff with my hands, if I could have done anything I probably would have built hot rods for a living. I ended up doing civil engineering because honestly I wasn't sure that I could handle the workload of mechanical, the uni advisors etc were very convincing that civil was a better choice, and I liked the idea of being on big construction sites. While I often think I probably should have studied mechanical (more suited to me) I still enjoy civil. If you have any questions regarding civil or anything I'd be happy to help :)
 
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PINT of Stella. mate!

PINT of Stella. mate!

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louestah said:
Hi, my names Louis and im 15 years old and in year 10 at school. In the next few weeks ill be choosing my subjects for years 11 and 12 and am still unsure of what I really want to do in the future. The first thing that I thought of was mechanical engineering which seems good for me as I like to work out how things work and love being hands on with stuff so it seemed like a good choice. My (unrealistic) dream job would be a professional downhill rider on the world circuit but that's highly unlikely to happen because of all the talented young riders who are coming through. Although I am highly capable of getting podiums at my state rounds I have no chance of getting into that type of career. My realistic dream job would be working on and developing bicycle components or even being a world cup bike mechanic if im lucky.

I'm putting this post up to ask for help for people to lead me in the right direction or give me advice to what I should be doing or aiming to achieve this, thanks in advance for reading this and hopefully giving me a few helpful pointers. Also ask me anything else about this if I did not mention it here. Thanks
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Bollocks to everything that's been said before, my boy. Unimaginative ideas from people with unimaginative minds.

If it's a life of adventure you crave then look no further than the French Foreign Legion!
 
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downhillar said:
Ok, well that's incorrect. I know engineers that have gone on to work as investment bankers for Commonwealth Bank, managers of smaller non-engineering companies as they will often have great organisational, costing and communication skills, or even managers of bigger engineering firms where your job has very little to do with actual engineering and everything to do with running a billion dollar company!
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For the people you know who have succeeded outside of their engineering discipline, it probably has little to do with them having engineering qualifications or skills, and more to do with them being smart and motivated people.
 
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PINT of Stella said:
Bollocks to everything that's been said before, my boy. Unimaginative ideas from people with unimaginative minds.

If it's a life of adventure you crave then look no further than the French Foreign Legion!
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Alone the same lines of this - have you thought of becoming a Chartered Accountant?
 
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...and 2 yetis...now you're just being hurtful. You know I haven't been allowed to work since that "unpleasantness" :yield:
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How is the Court case going? Are we allowed to mention what type of animal was involved in that "misunderstanding" yet?
 
moorey

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No, as them being endangered tends to polarise people against me. Who wooda thought people would care about a Chinese giant salamander? :noidea:
 
MCHpow_pow

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It's been said, but someone's who's mathematically inclined is probably not going to enjoy studying law.

Law can lead to a range of different career paths... so too, can engineering.
 
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