The election thread - Two middle-late aged white men trying to be blokey and convincing..., same old shit, FFS.

[cam-o]

Hmmm, after WW1 of which the Kaiser was disposed, Germany went into a whirlwind of diestitute and hunger, repatriations and destitution. I can't bare to think of the millions that starved due to sanctions. Why? Well I shall not digress.....

I'm trying to work out if this is a genuine case of Godwin's law kicking in, or if you've deliberately steered it that way in a valiant attempt to kill off what's rapidly descending into a pissing match.

 

[FR Drew]

Given that all I was saying was that high inflation is generally bad, I wasn't even going to bother responding...

 

[Bermshot]

I'm trying to work out if this is a genuine case of Godwin's law kicking in, or if you've deliberately steered it that way in a valiant attempt to kill off what's rapidly descending into a pissing match.

Hahaha, just being cheeky. The long-winded arguments seem foolish to me looking at the picture objectively. I see this as just another way to rape the people. I don't care for the parties doing the dosie do, entertaing the people with endless diatribe. I don't see our "leaders" as wise, let alone compassionate, and as for courage? well....

It's not just plain old disillusionment although that holds a good percentage but more so complete mistrust and I haven't seen anything to the contrary

 

[scooter]

This thread won't be complete until someone rolls out the Laffer curve, misinterprets it and then spams a bunch of links to Von Mises dot org

 

[seventyseven]

two-in-one!

http://mises.org/daily/4132/media.aspx?action=author&ID=126


whilst we're on the topic, because austrian economics is wrong and neo-classical is right:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2I0QN-FYkpw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0YTY5TWtmU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZaHNeNgrcI

and one final one about the U.S housing market, which ben bernanke is quoted as saying as "not being in a bubble": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jj8rMwdQf6k

but hey, this stuff is discredited right?

for the record fr drew: i'm no abbott supporter.

 

[Rider_of_Fast]

for the record fr drew: i'm no abbott supporter.

I am cause he rides bikes, wears lycra and budgie smugglers like me (yes - I base my vote on person who rides bikes over a communist bitch )

 

[Matt H]

communist bitch )

Communist? Really? You sound like one of those birther nutters from the US.

 

['Ross]

^^^It could be a bit of a slippery slope, all this re-distribution of wealth belief that what comes out of the ground should be shared by every Australian And she has been wearing a lot of red jackets compared to white jackets recently She is a flaming ranga as well I miss the old eek smily faces, these ones don't cut it

 

[Bermshot]

^^^It could be a bit of a slippery slope, all this re-distribution of wealth belief that what comes out of the ground should be shared by every Australian And she has been wearing a lot of red jackets compared to white jackets recently She is a flaming ranga as well I miss the old eek smily faces, these ones don't cut it

Sorry.... has always worn red. And just for a fair comparison lets look at Mr's Obama.

The Socialists will say 'reds OK'

 

[FR Drew]

Didn't Abbott have red budgie smugglers? Maybe he's a commie double agent trying to bring down the Libs through a complete lack of viable policy alternatives?

 

[johnny]

I may get schooled on this but prima facie, right now if Mal Turnball ran for PM I'd vote for him.

I barely pay attention at all to domestic politics but out of the little bit that I catch he's about the only one that I can listen to without wanting to kill and endangered species.

 

[FR Drew]

Gotta say I'm in agreement Johnny. Beyond Turnbull, there's precious little of any worth in Parlaiment at the present beyond a lot of organs that could be used to save the lives of other folks in need...

 

[thecat]

Just having someone, anyone, with the backbone to stand up an lead would be great.

 

[TonyG]

I think John Hewsen said it best on the 7pm Project the other night, "it's a race to the bottom".

 

[Matt H]

I couldn't bring myself to vote for any of the clowns kicking around at the moment. Unless something major happens before the next election - it's drawing a wang on the ballot paper for me. :very_drunk:

 

[Ivan]

I am betting that-

QLD Labor gets decimated in the QLD state election, and shortly after federal Labor has a leadership challenge, with Gillard no longer at the lodge.

 

[johnny]

The worst thing about this is that if Rudd loses the challenge he will be relegated to the back bench and we will end up with a second choice foreign minister.

The Labor Party has been at a loss since the Hawke/Keating years and I can't see it getting any better any time soon.

 

[Regan of Gong]

The worst thing about this is that if Rudd loses the challenge he will be relegated to the back bench and we will end up with a second choice foreign minister.

The Labor Party has been at a loss since the Hawke/Keating years and I can't see it getting any better any time soon.

I reckon he's banking on the fact that even if he loses, he can become the opposition leader in 18months or so when Labor gets rolled at the election.

 

[NCR600]

The worst thing about this is that if Rudd loses the challenge he will be relegated to the back bench and we will end up with a second choice foreign minister.

The Labor Party has been at a loss since the Hawke/Keating years and I can't see it getting any better any time soon.

The ALP have been heavily factionalised since the 1920's/30's when the Catholic Church backed Labor Right set themselves against the Union/Communist/Socialist Labor Left. At it's most base, the current infighting is only because a Coalition Government led by Tony Abbot is in short, unelectable.

If Turnbull was leading the Coalition, Labor would be gone a million. Then again, this situation would probably never have arisen if the Coalition had an electable leader. Hell, I'd even go close to voting for a Turnbull led Government, and I'm a small "L" liberal with heavily socialist leanings!

Although a Labor party led by Greg Combet (as mentioned in another thread) could be a good thing if both Gillard and Rudd get shafted.

 

[Ben-e]

Hell, I'd even go close to voting for a Turnbull led Government, and I'm a small "L" liberal with heavily socialist leanings!
Although a Labor party led by Greg Combet (as mentioned in another thread) could be a good thing if both Gillard and Rudd get shafted.

I believe that many people share these sentiments. I will vote Liberal, but surly K-Rudd is the lesser of two evils?