trek frames

SPECIALIST

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whats ppl opinion of trek frames compared to a traditional 4 bar suspension.....trek has there rear pivot combined with the rear axle where as Specialized use the Horst pivot which is to stop the suspension from locking out under braking ......so im basicallly asking does the Trek design do the same,better,different,or not as good as the specialized design cheers
 

harmonix1234

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Every person I have spoken too that has ridden them, or owns one says they're unreal, I've only ever read positive and glowing reviews, and Trek are bold enough to offer a lifetime warranty on their frames so they must be doing something right...?
 

Neon

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ive got the trek top fuel 9.8.. 07 model?
and its great! it locks up a little bit under braking but a lot less than other frames
 

FierceRider

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i use to ride treks, and they are awesome. basically what you have is a single pivot. BUT there is more to it than that. The full floater combined with a fully customed tuned and valved rear shock makes for a awesome set up. Also trek has the ABP (active braking pivot) which pretty much eliminates brake jack. Most suspension systems attach the shock to a moving linkage at the top, and a fixed frame mount on the bottom.
Full Floater attaches the shock to two moving linkage points that give the shock increased ability to respond to bumps across a wide variety of terrain. On top of all this you have life time warranty. Saying this they are pretty pricy. Trek is probably the most advanced bike company going around these days, they poach NASA engineers to work for them (no joke). Hope this helps.
 

flamin'trek

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Does anyone know how the weight of the curent Fuel EX models compares, carbon to alloy? All I've read so far is that the carbon frames are light and a fuel ex 9.9 was close to 2000g saving 200g over the old model.

I've had a search around but not found anything I was looking for. So far pretty much all review of the Fuel ex odels is pretty positive. There doesn't seem to be much discussion on rotorburn of Trek in general. Would appreiate a link (or search suggestion) if anyone has seen similar threads.
 

lobstar

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I was defiantly spectacle about how the abp and full floater would actually work, but after riding mine for 3 months I can say hands down, it's the best handling downhill bike I have ever ridden! Once my knee is better, I will be buying another one for sure.

Trek actually won a dispute again Dave Weagle, and won the patent back a couple of weeks ago.
 

peanut

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I was defiantly spectacle about how the abp and full floater would actually work, but after riding mine for 3 months I can say hands down, it's the best handling downhill bike I have ever ridden! Once my knee is better, I will be buying another one for sure.

Trek actually won a dispute again Dave Weagle, and won the patent back a couple of weeks ago.
From what i understand Trek proved they had dated design drawings and prototypes being ridden before Dw had his patent awarded,(were they dated before DW's designs? who knows) therefore they don't have to pay DW a royalty for every ABP bike they produce.
Whether they can license the ABP pivot to other manufacturers remains to be seen, i think thats when they would infringe on DW's patent, and have to pay royalties.
Similar situation with chumba ?who don't have to pay a royalty to specialized for using horst link bikes in the U.S. something to do with proving design and prototypes existed before patents were awarded.
 

Welshy

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I think it ended up going like this:

Neither Trek or Weagle has to pay royalties to the other.

Weagle is able to licence his design to other companies.

Trek may continue using their design royalty free, but may not licence to others.
 
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