Thanks Creaky - appreciate the info, interesting to hear you believe the rear to be more active than the VPP, I'd read some reports to indicate the opposite, however those other reports were citing the DW to be faaar superior in pedalling platform. Nice to hear its stiffer inn the rear end too
So it is better than VPP in both regards I am all ears as I love the operation of the VPP under bump situations. What I find is my TBc (series 1) doesn't feel that 'racey', but is more a 'play bike' or trail oriented which is fine and a really enjoy riding it, but if I can get a dually to be more racey then I'd likely use it for XC racing (where I currently use a hardtail). And perhaps as you suggested in my previous thread - the TB could be setup a little differently to be more Race, but its currently sitting at 10.9kg in its current spec with 1 x10 and carbon everything, I'd like a lower front end and a bit more 'punch'
TB2 is reported an improvement, but again I've not ridden one.
Your bike complete is 10.2kg? So frame is around 2.3kg I assume?
I would be a Large in a Czar (5'10" or 178cm), but would be most appreciative for a basic demo if you are up for it. (yes Brissy also)
Currently I am demo-ing a Yeti ASRc and whilst it has inherent pedal bob from the simple single pivot design, it is very surprisingly zippy and efficient except when out of the saddle and mashing the pedals. And as expected it is supremely confident on descents and soaks up the trail very well (weighs 11kg complete, but is not the lightest build in the world - frame is only 4.2lbs, which is around 1.9kg))