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The Duckmeister
Has a juicy midrange
Go 2.0-1.8-2.0 double-butted, they'll build a much more resilient wheel. Spokes stretch under load, more than most people realise. Straigh-gauge spokes have the same stretch characteristic the whole length, and that concentrates stress at the ends. Double-butts have different stretch characteristics; having more robust ends coupled to a thinner shaft takes some of the stress from the ends, so they're less likely to break, as long as they're tensioned properly.
Oddjob
Merry fucking Xmas to you assholes
Replace all spokes. Go for double butted 2/1.8 Sapim or Dt spokes and brass nipples.
If you haven't got a stand and tensiometer find a good builder. Vanilla cycles, Play bikes or TWE if you are in Sydney.
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The Duckmeister
Has a juicy midrange
At the moment, best to go through your LBS, 'cos international post is up the shit, and Aus Post is worse. Take a spoke out of each side of each wheel, and measure them from the inside of the elbow to the tip to determine the lengths. Make a note of which size fits where!
PJO
in me vL comy
I've recently bought spokes from Dirt Works, was $65 delivered for 36 Pillar PSR2018 spokes. Would be cheaper if you buy more, they have a $15 flat rate postage fee.
PSR2018 are double butted 2.0/1.8, but they have a slightly thicker head at 2.2mm. Built up into a nice wheel.
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PJO
in me vL comy
Yes
blacksp20
Likes Bikes and Dirt
Anyone had issues with Park TM-1 tensiometer tightening up?
I thought my spokes felt soft even though the meter was showing around 140kgf. Today I went and took half a turn out of the rear wheel and then used the meter and the tensions weren’t changing. Took another half turn out and found the gauge wasn’t returning back to zero. Subsequent squeezes were tightening the pivot bolt and causing binding of the gauge. It got that bad that it wouldn’t go below 30 on the gauge when not measuring a spoke.
Ended up loosening the pivot bolt and it appears to measure properly now. Spokes feel much tighter at 120kgf on the gauge now.
Has anyone else had a similar problem?
I thought my spokes felt soft even though the meter was showing around 140kgf. Today I went and took half a turn out of the rear wheel and then used the meter and the tensions weren’t changing. Took another half turn out and found the gauge wasn’t returning back to zero. Subsequent squeezes were tightening the pivot bolt and causing binding of the gauge. It got that bad that it wouldn’t go below 30 on the gauge when not measuring a spoke.
Ended up loosening the pivot bolt and it appears to measure properly now. Spokes feel much tighter at 120kgf on the gauge now.
Has anyone else had a similar problem?
The Duckmeister
Has a juicy midrange
Can't say I've encountered that one before. Have had springs go soft, which will give falsely high readings, then they break....
blacksp20
Likes Bikes and Dirt
This is a brand new meter and first wheels built using it. I had a feeling it wasn’t reading correctly but that confirmed it. Seems to be better after backing off the screw though.
CHEWY
Eats Squid
I snapped another spoke yesterday which went through the rim strip and flatted the tyre... that's 3 in one week. Snapped about an inch up from the j-bend.
I decided to replace the rest with the same DT Champions I've been getting from the shop, as I'm riding every day at the minute and didn't want to loose time waiting for spokes.
I've just looked at what they have given me and they're not DT's, there's no marking on the head.
I'm planning on taking them back and just ordering a full set of DT Comps online (they wanted $6 a spoke for comps???) , or am I being pedantic and just use what I've got and they will be fine?
I decided to replace the rest with the same DT Champions I've been getting from the shop, as I'm riding every day at the minute and didn't want to loose time waiting for spokes.
I've just looked at what they have given me and they're not DT's, there's no marking on the head.
I'm planning on taking them back and just ordering a full set of DT Comps online (they wanted $6 a spoke for comps???) , or am I being pedantic and just use what I've got and they will be fine?
hifiandmtb
Sphincter beanie
$6 a spoke is highway robbery. $2 max.
The ones you already have will likely be ok, no markings anywhere?
The ones you already have will likely be ok, no markings anywhere?
Oddjob
Merry fucking Xmas to you assholes
Sapims don't have a marking on the head, its close to the j-bend.
Pillars and Dts have head markings.
Dirtworks have an Ebay store where you can order spokes and nipples from.
See
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/254421938249
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PJO
in me vL comy
You can order directly from Dirtworks if you don't want to use the ebay store just add to cart and go to check out, you will create an account at checkout. Will save on doubling up postage if you buy more than one item.
PJO
in me vL comy
Measure the length first