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dog boy

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You have to be persistent with girls right? But how persistent is too persistent?
Talking about the girl mentioned 5 or so pages back "red".
I talk to her at least once a week on facebook, I'm always the one that starts the convo but once the convo is started shes happy to keep it going.
last friday I went Ice skating with her and 4 other mates guess it went pretty well. Facebooked her on Tuesday asked her if she wanted to go to the coast sometime this week she said she was busy, dentist one day, already planned stuff with other mate, uni work. When ever she cant do something I have invited her to its always "aww I would be so keen! but I'm so busy this week :(" im pretty sure my timing is just bad and she isnt just giving me shit excuses. I'm finding it so hard to gauge her because she is so outgoing.
So now with the persistence question, would asking her to come out with me this Friday be too soon considering I asked her to do something start of the week?
Im thinking maybe text her "Hey I'm heading out tonight want to come out for some drinks with me" or something like that. there is a posssibility that she will be working saturday morning tho. if that is the case Illl reply something like "your always so busy, you should let me know when your free so we can do something some time" and then don't talk to her untill she either texts to say shes free and wants to do something or I see her out or at a party.

Good plan or too persistent?
Would I be better off asking if she is free to do something this weekend then if she says yes specify doing something to avoid being blown off becasue she has work?
 
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NCR600

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You have to be persistent with girls right? But how persistent is too persistent?
Generally when they call the police on you after living in the shrubs outside their bedroom window for three weeks is a pretty good indication of over-perservering.
 

Registered Nutcase

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You have to be persistent with girls right? But how persistent is too persistent?
Talking about the girl mentioned 5 or so pages back "red".
I talk to her at least once a week on facebook, I'm always the one that starts the convo but once the convo is started shes happy to keep it going.
last friday I went Ice skating with her and 4 other mates guess it went pretty well. Facebooked her on Tuesday asked her if she wanted to go to the coast sometime this week she said she was busy, dentist one day, already planned stuff with other mate, uni work. When ever she cant do something I have invited her to its always "aww I would be so keen! but I'm so busy this week :(" im pretty sure my timing is just bad and she isnt just giving me shit excuses. I'm finding it so hard to gauge her because she is so outgoing.
So now with the persistence question, would asking her to come out with me this Friday be too soon considering I asked her to do something start of the week?
Im thinking maybe text her "Hey I'm heading out tonight want to come out for some drinks with me" or something like that. there is a posssibility that she will be working saturday morning tho. if that is the case Illl reply something like "your always so busy, you should let me know when your free so we can do something some time" and then don't talk to her untill she either texts to say shes free and wants to do something or I see her out or at a party.

Good plan or too persistent?
Would I be better off asking if she is free to do something this weekend then if she says yes specify doing something to avoid being blown off becasue she has work?
Slap yourself hard NOW!

Stop being a bitch and ffs stop nagging her. Play harder to get and go do some stuff with other people and see if she is intresterd. to paraphraise what you said into no so bitch talk. "I'm heading out tonight with some friends. I was thinking of inviting you, but I only hang around with the cool people, and given your previous performance... your leaning closer to lame than cool" Or words to that effect.

If you say this you will NEVER get with her "your always so busy, you should let me know when your free so we can do something some time" 1 you have given up on her, admitted defeat and pleading with her to pick a loser not a winner.

In regards to persistence as a general thing, you need to try becuase if you don't you can't get. BUT if she starts using forceful words like: NO, I Im busy, basicly and definate no, Stop! however if she is like sort of no: I have to get up early for work etc etc. she is actually saying work harder and make it worth my while and I will join you.. and f#@k you brains out*

*May or may not happen
 

S.

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You have to be persistent with girls right? But how persistent is too persistent?
Talking about the girl mentioned 5 or so pages back "red".
I talk to her at least once a week on facebook, I'm always the one that starts the convo but once the convo is started shes happy to keep it going.
last friday I went Ice skating with her and 4 other mates guess it went pretty well. Facebooked her on Tuesday asked her if she wanted to go to the coast sometime this week she said she was busy, dentist one day, already planned stuff with other mate, uni work. When ever she cant do something I have invited her to its always "aww I would be so keen! but I'm so busy this week :(" im pretty sure my timing is just bad and she isnt just giving me shit excuses. I'm finding it so hard to gauge her because she is so outgoing.
So now with the persistence question, would asking her to come out with me this Friday be too soon considering I asked her to do something start of the week?
Im thinking maybe text her "Hey I'm heading out tonight want to come out for some drinks with me" or something like that. there is a posssibility that she will be working saturday morning tho. if that is the case Illl reply something like "your always so busy, you should let me know when your free so we can do something some time" and then don't talk to her untill she either texts to say shes free and wants to do something or I see her out or at a party.

Good plan or too persistent?
Would I be better off asking if she is free to do something this weekend then if she says yes specify doing something to avoid being blown off becasue she has work?
You're overthinking it. If she didn't like what you were doing, she'd usually make it pretty obvious, but as RN said, you gotta be a bit smarter about it. Persist until your intuition* says you should be doing otherwise.


*restraining order.


In other news, it's been a drama filled week or two of internet dating escapades. Got a couple on the go and another one who says she's keen to meet up for a drink (how's that for an expression of interest, "yeah I might be able to be talked into meeting you at all" - this shit is slow). Met up with one other one who was a bit of a dud but that's not too bad. Things I have learnt:
- Internet dating is like carpet bombing. If you don't hit up everyone, you won't get anywhere, it's a numbers game.
- Most chicks on teh intarnets seem to be looking for a relationship. I'm not averse to this except that I'm going OS for quite a while in about 8 months' time and I have no interest in leading anyone on.
- This stuff moves SLOWLY. It's like planning to get laid NEXT MONTH. If you want a hole to smash within the next 48hrs I suggest you invest in some booze and a cab fare, cos this isn't the way to get it.
- First dates with some chick you don't know are surprisingly easy. They're usually nervous enough that they're relieved/grateful/delighted if you can make some kind of decent conversation without seeming needy or awkward.
- Plenty of chicks on the net are complete and utter retards. Fortunately you can kind of screen them by simply reading the shit they write.
- You gotta stand out, but that's pretty easy given how shit most people's internet dating profiles are. "Hi, I'm a genuine honest guy looking for the girl of my dreams. I like footy, cars, music, going out, not going out, staying in, not staying in, socialising and being alone." Translation: boring.

Stuff I still need to work out and would love pointers on:
- Most websites have a kiss/flirt/contact member option for free that just sends an automated message where you can choose from like one of 5 or so pre-written phrases, from "I think you're cute/hot" to "we have so much in common" to "I would like to get to know you". Anyone got any input on which of those works best?
- Facebook. yay or nay? At the moment I'm leaning towards nay... too easy to get into trouble.
- First date suggestions? So far I've just been goin out for drinks at a quietish bar and it's been fine, but something a bit different would be cool. Has to be cheap though (since the whole reason I decided to try the internets again was to save money on going out drinking!)
 

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- You gotta stand out, but that's pretty easy given how shit most people's internet dating profiles are. "Hi, I'm a genuine honest guy looking for the girl of my dreams. I like footy, cars, music, going out, not going out, staying in, not staying in, socialising and being alone." Translation: boring.

Stuff I still need to work out and would love pointers on:
- Most websites have a kiss/flirt/contact member option for free that just sends an automated message where you can choose from like one of 5 or so pre-written phrases, from "I think you're cute/hot" to "we have so much in common" to "I would like to get to know you". Anyone got any input on which of those works best?
- Facebook. yay or nay? At the moment I'm leaning towards nay... too easy to get into trouble.
- First date suggestions? So far I've just been goin out for drinks at a quietish bar and it's been fine, but something a bit different would be cool. Has to be cheap though (since the whole reason I decided to try the internets again was to save money on going out drinking!)
In all honestly you have some level of whit and why not use "- You gotta stand out, but that's pretty easy given how shit most people's internet dating profiles are. "Hi, I'm a genuine honest guy looking for the girl of my dreams. I like footy, cars, music, going out, not going out, staying in, not staying in, socialising and being alone." Translation: boring." as a line....or try something so far away from the normal it my get attention. IE "Serial stalker seeking next victim"< once said that to a girl at a pub and ended up getting laid so it must work???

My understanding is that the free option, girls get so bombarded with them that they usually ignore it. But looking at a few sites even if you pay for membership you only get a few msg's per a day and well I don't want to waste them on the "carpet bombing". I would suggest trying writing something like "if I kiss/flirt/etc you flirt back if your intrestered and I will send you a message." Something direct and will help seperate the wheat from the chaf?

Stay the fuck away from FB, do you really want some crazy chic talking to your friends, family etc. I saw an add on hotmail that said you can have an alais account. perhaps one of them, so you still have your privacy until your happy they are not going to stalk you.

First date. Like I posted 300 odd pages ago ICE SKATING followed by drinks. Read my previous post about it if you want more info
 

Minlak

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You have to be persistent with girls right? But how persistent is too persistent?
Talking about the girl mentioned 5 or so pages back "red".
I talk to her at least once a week on facebook, I'm always the one that starts the convo but once the convo is started shes happy to keep it going.
last friday I went Ice skating with her and 4 other mates guess it went pretty well. Facebooked her on Tuesday asked her if she wanted to go to the coast sometime this week she said she was busy, dentist one day, already planned stuff with other mate, uni work. When ever she cant do something I have invited her to its always "aww I would be so keen! but I'm so busy this week :(" im pretty sure my timing is just bad and she isnt just giving me shit excuses. I'm finding it so hard to gauge her because she is so outgoing.
So now with the persistence question, would asking her to come out with me this Friday be too soon considering I asked her to do something start of the week?
Im thinking maybe text her "Hey I'm heading out tonight want to come out for some drinks with me" or something like that. there is a posssibility that she will be working saturday morning tho. if that is the case Illl reply something like "your always so busy, you should let me know when your free so we can do something some time" and then don't talk to her untill she either texts to say shes free and wants to do something or I see her out or at a party.

Good plan or too persistent?
Would I be better off asking if she is free to do something this weekend then if she says yes specify doing something to avoid being blown off becasue she has work?
You are asking the wrong way...
1) Hey im going to XYZ on Sat night want to come too?
a) Sorry i cant i have this thing with a thing maybe next time?
2) Sure so when are you free? We can do some thing then?
this here is the key line ..... if she wants to see you socially alone she will make the time and offer a solution if she doesn't then move on. Moving on may give her a little nudge to think "MMMM whats been happening with the puppy i had sniffing around" or you may barely be thought of again.

Yes be persistant but asking her out days after she told you she was busy not a good idea wait a week and try above method i say....
 

dog boy

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LOL funny thing is pretty much as soon as I posted this last night she Facebook messaged me, I didn't realize and turned the computer off. So I woke up this morning to her message, she wanted to know where the best places to go out in the city are. So I gave my opinions of places to go, said that I was going out this weekend too she said that she was going out tonight and I should come with her and her friends :bounce:
 

Jeffgre_6163

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Best first date EVER

Just stumbledon this thread, its makes fun reading.
I have been [happily married] out of the game for some years now but I have to relate the BEST EVER first date that I ever went on.

Having recently arrived in Perth from NZ my travelling mate and I were doing every thing the city could offer in the way of lifestyle things that cold old Christchurch could not offer.
To this end we had both done our scuba diving tickets and were going out diving every couple of weeks and had become members of a diving club
About this time I met a young lady at a party with my new work mates, my travelling mate was cracking on to her friend big time but I was just tagging along, I did not have a lot of self confidence particulary since this girl was 18 months older [26] and, quite frankly, extremeley hot by any blokes standards.
Basically I considered her way out of my league.
Any way, the conversation came around to what we/they were doing the next weekend, we mentioned that we were heading up to the Aquarium north of Perth [Seals, dolphins, etc etc] for the day.
Without even realising what I was doing, next thing I know I had invited her and her friend along and they accepted.
I was keen but the offer was really made as a gesture of friendship rather than an attempt to get in to her pants, once again the lack of confidence made it inconceivable to me that this hotty would even consider such a thing.

What my mate and I did NOT tell them was that the real reason we were heading up to the Aquarium was that the dive club was having one of its "Dive in the shark tank" trips.
The tank was filled with big Grey Nurse sharks [2.5 meter +], Wobbigongs etc as well as heaps of fish
The Grey Nurses look fearsome but are really no big deal, but it was a buzz.

Anyway - when we get there my mate and I go off the get the wetties on while the girls were watching the show.
When we came down with the wetties on we still had a bit of a wait so I had my wetty pulled down to my waist - IE exposing quite a lot of tanned, fit, hairy chested manliness
Again I was totally ignorant of the "Effect" of this on the girl [Interested in little old me, no way - I will just amire her from afar].
When then went for our dive while the girls looked on.
I actually have photos of my mate and I with tooth brushes we had taken in for a laugh swimming close to the sharks pretending to brush their teeth!

Well....
When I got out and changed back in to our clothes to say her "attitude" towards me had changed was an understatement.
Lets just say I lost my innocense that night :biggrin:
It lead to a relationship that lasted 9 months and still brings a grin to my face when I think of it 23 years later
Man she was SOOOOO hot I still look at the photos of us and start to wonder all over again if there really is a god

So for a first date gauaranteed to get her turned on, go dive in a tank full of sharks!

Mind you, she could wind up thinking you are a complete Indiana Jones, Bear Grylls wanna be wanker :)
 
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Norco Maniac

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What have you done to him :suspicious:
Manny the Norco is my most reliable ride :p i love him! (i did fit him with a girl saddle tho, forgive me!) and he *did* bring me into the circle of a lycra-clad fellow rider who was packing much more than i had anticipated....to my days of grinning pleasure....that story has been told in this thread already tho. damn shame that man is moving away, he has talents i would love to further explore, and is humble about them as well...*sigh*
 

Morgan123

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Manny the Norco is my most reliable ride :p i love him! (i did fit him with a girl saddle tho, forgive me!) and he *did* bring me into the circle of a lycra-clad fellow rider who was packing much more than i had anticipated....to my days of grinning pleasure....that story has been told in this thread already tho. damn shame that man is moving away, he has talents i would love to further explore, and is humble about them as well...*sigh*
To many informations. That poor thing, he wasn't meant for picking up lycras guys! :chargrined:
 

Steve-0

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story time
My number one rule for going out: Never plan or expect a great night. Always ends up shit. Head out with a mindset of "lets see where this takes me" always brings the epic (and successful) nights out!

*Awaits RYDA's & Glueys story time*

p.s. SV you sure are open about every single detail of your life. Tad bit too much info regarding rides and lycra imo but each to their own :twitch:
 

rabatt

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My number one rule for going out: Never plan or expect a great night. Always ends up shit
don't worry I always go out expecting it to be shit, I always have my expectations met or exceeded.

I figured I'd try changing my attitude towards people in general, and have been trying not to expect every unplanned interaction with other humans to be bad, I gave up tonight, I decided I am just not compatible with people, and being around people gets me more down then not being around people.

Not posting in here any more, well... except to add useless comments
 
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