About Time! (Fox 180 sc inside)
- Thread starter Kamikazee ideki
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Wise observation, you are wise aren't you? Have you found Nirvana and now understand all?
Have you ridden Kowa? For your information a WC racer (something tells me it was Kovaric) ran 180mm Travis Singles for a fair few races. If you get one of the technically minded posters to add their $0.02 I'm sure they'll say good things about the Manitou dampening system. Don't even get me started on Marzocchi. So, they had a bad shift from Italy to Taiwan and resultantly had a bad production year. Does that make all their previous decent years bad? No. Precious Rock Shox even had a bad production run of their 2010 Boxxers, yet you don't think they are SHIT. I could go on, but my keyboard is dying, took 20 mins to type that.
Personally I'd take Marzocchi and Rock Shox over Fox.
Rider15
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Umm...thats exactly what the 40 is? The 40 ways less then 200grams more then a Boxxer Race/Team
Fat_Ride
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It's the same reason Fox hasn't made an XC fork to compete with the TORA. Focus is on the top end of the market.
In regards to weight, you would think this would be a bigger issue with the female riders right? Yet 4 of the top 5 Womans World Cup riders and 3 of the top 5 Womens World Champ riders, including THE world champ and world cup title winner ride on FOX 40's (and Rachel wasn't even there this year). Have you seen the size of Emmeline Ragot?? Food for thought...
floody
Wheel size expert
Might answer both posts...
"Have you ridden Kowa?" No. Nobody has. Thats why.
Manitou - because they are rubbish. Wow, a manitou sponsored racer ran sponsored manitous? Totally makes up for the suspect build, performance and reliability. For the last 10 years or so they've had many 'great on paper' ideas which just haven't translate into real world performance. As in bolt on the fork, set the dials and rip, as you can with Fox, Rockshox.
Marzocchi - Because they are rubbish. One bad production year? More like almost every year of the preceding 7 or so.
Problems with Boxxers are a blip on the radar of a workmanlike, reasonably priced fork.
kill_switch
Dead-set Idiot
No need to be a smart ass buddy. That makes a bit of sense but still im sure its not the only reason.
ferntreekid
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Blip on the radar? that caused delays to 2010 bikes shipped with them for several months? pretty big blip if you ask me.
haven't ridden kowa, but have ridden a few different Marzocchi forks (various pre '07 888 models) and owned a set of 2006 66 SL VF2's on my SC bullit, didn't touch them the whole time i owned them, and they were by far the smoothest fork i've ever ridden.
On topic: 180mm 36s? in reality, are gonna be way too expensive for your average joe, when Van 36 RC2's come close to 2K retail...
Actually i have no joke ridden kowas. I used to own a pair of Kowa 200si. i swapped with a friend and they felt shit. Worse than marzzochis.
kozlik9
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That just sounds silly. If the wheel comes out and the forks make contact with the ground at speed alot more damage is going to be done than just mangled drop outs.
Im so sure that it would not be there to make room for the FIT system because they don't do it on any for the other forks with it.
That is exactly right, both Manitou and Fox do it for that reason. (and others that i do not know of)
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Welshy
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Then why don't all longer travel forks have the longer lowers? It's bullshit; you still need the 180mm+ stauntions, and the lowers will always be longer than that.
No probs with my rebound, must have got a rare set
have you got the 08 ones or 07
07s arnt that bad
kozlik9
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Its not that they have made the lowers longer. They have moved the axle higher up the lowers.
wouldnt there then be issues with the tire contacting the crown?
also longer lowers allow for more stanchion, which could add to stiffness.
TALAS huh, so air?
kozlik9
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Good point, but they could just make the crown higher.
And another good point with the stiffness.
Welshy
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Which would in turn require more stauntion length for the arch to clear the crown, making the whole fucking exercise completely useless.
kozlik9
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Yes so true we just did a complete 360.
MMMM im going to stick with stiffness haha
anyone else got any input to this topic
Kamikazee ideki
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I'm sure they will be plenty stiff enough, I haven't heard of anyone complain about the stiffness of regular 36's. Most likely not in the same region as the totems or working 66's but I'm pretty sure Fox wouldn't release a noodle to the public.
k_d
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My guess is that it (as previously said above) lowers the A-C height.
With the discussion on marzocci is terrible, manitou sucks etc, make sure you have ridden at least two forks from said manufacturer as you might have just recieved a bad fork from a bad batch (this does happen you know).