The Duckmeister
Has a juicy midrange
Not even Moorey's humour is that sick.
That gay marriage thing........
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pharmaboy
Eats Squid
Regrettably you are correct and I just made the mistake of finding out that neo nazis are real, and quite proud of their complete and utter lunacy. Actually, that poster is probably the most sane stuff on their irrevocably bizarre and mad place on the web, and let me assure you, that's saying something.
Maybe that rock is best left facedown on the ground
moorey
call me Mia
Hold my beer...
pink poodle
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Plenty of those dick heads around your home town sadly. Often happy to walk the streets their uniforms, a very romper stomper look.
The Duckmeister
Has a juicy midrange
Hehe, good one I saw today....
HOMOPHOBIA: The fear that gay men will treat you the way you treat women.
HOMOPHOBIA: The fear that gay men will treat you the way you treat women.
moorey
call me Mia
Gay bloke at work does exactly that. I'm sick of rearranging furniture and assuring him his arse doesn't look big in that. :
Spike-X
Grumpy Old Sarah
There was actually quite a lot, as I recall.
Spike-X
Grumpy Old Sarah
There's really no need. He already has plenty.
But they have the choice to do it if they want to.
If couples make that decision for themselves, that's up to them. Other people shouldn't be making it for them.
If marriage is strictly for procreation, why are there no laws against infertile couples, or couples who are too old to conceive, or who simply don't want to have kids, being allowed to marry?
They have no more right to decide that for couples who do want to marry than do the bigots.
That seems to be a cowardly approach to me.
I have no empathy at all for the view that some people don't deserve the same rights as everyone else.
Having bigoted views is one thing. Attempting to impose them on the rest of the populace is just shit. Like I've seen it said elsewhere, "Telling gay people they can't get married because you don't approve of homosexuality is like telling me I can't have a doughnut because you're on a diet."
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Beej1
Senior Member
I agree with this. Healthy and vigorous debate is a good thing.
Except when religion is involved. Because it's rarely healthy I find. Mainly becaise it often tends to become such a heated and lengthy argument about something that is the world's biggest make believe story and its characters.
It's like a forum of a thousand posts arguing about the treatment of reindeer forced tow a guy around the planet at relativistic speeds one night a year.
Flow-Rider
Burner
Just thought I'd share some history on Plebiscites. A lot has already been discussed on here but our political system should have been ashamed of itself for letting some basic human rights be decided by a pleb..
There have only been three national plebiscites in Australia:
1916: military service conscription (defeated)
1917: reinforcement of the Australian Imperial Force overseas (defeated)
1977: choice of Australia’s national song ('Advance Australia Fair' preferred.)
They've had a few different individual ones across the states in the past though.
There have only been three national plebiscites in Australia:
1916: military service conscription (defeated)
1917: reinforcement of the Australian Imperial Force overseas (defeated)
1977: choice of Australia’s national song ('Advance Australia Fair' preferred.)
They've had a few different individual ones across the states in the past though.
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stirk
Burner
Enough said right there duck. This thread is a bloody good example of how people will debate and complicate the argument, start side arguments about religion and gods and sodomy only the devil knows what else will come up, when the very core of this whole debacle the government has created is very fucking simple.
Some human rights in this country are not equal.
It's time to fix one long overdue inequality.
Get on with it, stop arguing about it as there is no argument to be made against marriage equality as far as I'm concerned.
Australia is so backwater in many ways.
I'm saddened it's come to this shitshow.
Flow-Rider
Burner
They need to just let it go through and let the anti-discrimination laws deal with the rest. Isn't one of the Christians beliefs to follow the laws of the land.
Spike-X
Grumpy Old Sarah
Yes, except when they decide they shouldn't have to, then they whine about being persecuted and discriminated against for having to follow the same rules as everyone else.
moorey
call me Mia
That, and most Christians I know believe that biblical law A: should set the law, and B: should trump the law. All religions believe this, I'm just highlighting Christianity due to it being the most popular flavour here.
stirk
Burner
Ha! Nice try :heh: The Christmas creation was based on rebelling against the law! Until it suits them.
floody
Wheel size expert
The only two elements necessary for a marriage between two persons (of binary sex) are intention, and consent. Not procreation or any other guff that gets put out there.
"Do you wanna?"
"Yep"
Job's on.
I would say for the first circa twenty five years of my life I never once heard or read a single person outlining their sincere, heartfelt, deeply considered view on what the word marriage constituted. Well, that's not totally accurate. Maybe a priest or celebrant, or my RE teacher, in the course of their ceremonial duties or as part of the script, but otherwise nobody. There was just none of this "for me, marriage is [droning noise]" stuff.
"Do you wanna?"
"Yep"
Job's on.
I would say for the first circa twenty five years of my life I never once heard or read a single person outlining their sincere, heartfelt, deeply considered view on what the word marriage constituted. Well, that's not totally accurate. Maybe a priest or celebrant, or my RE teacher, in the course of their ceremonial duties or as part of the script, but otherwise nobody. There was just none of this "for me, marriage is [droning noise]" stuff.
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The Duckmeister
Has a juicy midrange
Just as well this is in the "Off Topic" bit then! :caked:
I don't make a "thing" about my sexuality either on these forums (except for this thread, where it's in context) or elsewhere, for the reasons above - it is simply not relevant to anyone else in my public life. Which ultimately cuts back to why the current situation we're facing is so fucked up. We as a society should not have to vote on the life choices of people who are irrelevant to the rest of us, and whose choices have no effect on society at large.
"You may never bring yourself to take me as I am,
But in case you haven't noticed, I don't give a fucking damn!"
These song lines sit quite comfortably with me; I don't give that much of a shit any more what people think about me (hell, I ride XC, 600mm handlebars, fixed seatpost, 3x and 26" - all the untrendy stuff for crying out loud! :tongue1: ), but I must say that although very little has been said in my specific direction, the overall trend through this thread of "they should just get the hell on with it" has in its own way been comforting, indicating that the section of our little community who has chipped in here is a lot more forward-thinking and accepting than the arsehats who supposedly represent us (they seem to have forgotten the meaning of that bit of their job description) in parliament.
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pink poodle
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^ but...we really need to sort out your handle bar situation.