COVID-19: who’s going full doomsday prep on this?

[silentbutdeadly]

So what happens to all the run of the mill patients when hospitals are over filled with corona cases?

If either of my parents gets a dose of #19 they won't even get a look in at anything other than a comfortable dose of barbiturates...both have compromised lungs and immune systems.

All those anti-euthanasia people are really going to be ethically compromised by the next six months or so...

 

[foxpuppet]

My wife’s primary school class had 10 out of 30 kids away on Friday, more parents have been emailing her to advise kids will be staying home from now.


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[pink poodle]

My wife’s primary school class had 10 out of 30 kids away on Friday, more parents have been emailing her to advise kids will be staying home from now.


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Every teacher's dream! A classroom size that is actually conducive to learning rather than driven by underfunding and cutbacks.

 

[creaky]

Brother in law just got a positive test today. His boss tested positive yesterday apparently, after attending a party with a now known case last weekend.

BIL’s only symptom was a scratchy throat for a couple of days apparently. Hopefully that’s all it comes too. The kids have been going to school all week, unawares. Hopefully my sister and the kids only get something minor like BIL (so far). Shit starts to get real !

 

[ozzybmx]

At present our hospitals are pretty much at capacity with the norm life threating stuff of everyday life, ie heart attacks, strokes, cancer, trauma, flu etc.. So what happens to all the run of the mill patients when hospitals are over filled with corona cases? Choices have to be made who lives and dies.. Hope it’s not your child or partner..

SA has a tour group of Yanks that were cruising around the Barossa Wine Region yesterday, apparently departed a cruise ship in Sydney a week ago, 10 out of 18 have Covid19 and the others are all being tested, they have been travelling in the small group of 18 so it's probable they all have it.

Several of them got a police escort from the Barossa today to the Royal Adelaide Hospital.

 

[hifiandmtb]

Sydney never fails to deliver.

 

[creaky]

Scuttle all the cruise ships at sea.

 

[FigBo0T]

it's probable they all have it.

How many people, restaurants, hotel rooms do you reckon they've shared it with?

 

[ozzybmx]

Scuttle all the cruise ships at sea.

K'oath !

Probably travelled across from NSW, crop dusting remote tourist areas and small communities on their way.

If they were only getting diagnosed yesterday, there might be a trail of carnage to come.

 

[johnny]

Local Westfield now at least has signs up at the entrance of the shops about washing hands. It's the least they could do, I guess.

Shelves in Coles stripped, vege prices are being jacked up - tomatoes $10kg and Green Capsicums $12kg. Many shelves stripped bare - pasta and saucces aisle, baking goods, dunny roll, meat, etc.

Was in bottlo that had big red tape marks on the floor showing people how to line up, we were all doing it except the woman that came up and stood right at my back. Had to tell her to go back to her X on the floor, security guard was coming over to tell her the same thing.


WTF will it take to get people to pay attention?

The answer to that is coming this week.

 

[nathanm]

As much as I hate Scotty from marketing, I think overall they’re handling this pretty well. While there have fuck ups here and there, generally they’ve acted on the advice from experts and learned from others mistakes.

Yes handling it exactly like he handled the bushfires. He's letting the "states" make the decisions so he doesn't have to.

Typical limp dick leadership.

All well and good to double job seeker payments and access to super but like the bushfires victims they either will have long delays or won't see the money at all.

The organisation that delivers the payments are understaffed and underequipped to process the claims and payments.

They don't have them means to train 5000 new staff and once schools close or they get infected as they're taking sweet fuck all measures to protect their staff then they wont have even a quarter of the staff they need to manage the current demand.

I wonder how the poor bushfire victims are going?? All those donations to red cross etc will now be 100% spent on staff an they wont see a dollar

 

[moorey]

Yes handling it exactly like he handled the bushfires. He's letting the "states" make the decisions so he doesn't have to.

Typical limp dick leadership.

All well and good to double job seeker payments and access to super but like the bushfires victims they either will have long delays or won't see the money at all.

The organisation that delivers the payments are understaffed and underequipped to process the claims and payments.

They don't have them means to train 5000 new staff and once schools close or they get infected as they're taking sweet fuck all measures to protect their staff then they wont have even a quarter of the staff they need to manage the current demand.

I wonder how the poor bushfire victims are going?? All those donations to red cross etc will now be 100% spent on staff an they wont see a dollar

Glad you have all the answers and shit.

 

[SummitFever]

...The answer to that is coming this week...

Unfortunately the idiots will have brought this upon us (and by idiots I don't just mean selfish ignorant twats going to the beach after stocking up on toilet paper).

 

[Oddjob]

Why do you ignore the load on the hospital system?

This action is necessary because something like half the general population seems unable to fathom that social distancing, hygiene & unnecessary movements need to be enacted.

If we were not a society full of idiots, we could deal with this more easily.

Why not direct your questions to the stupid.

Its called a finite extensive form game.

The initial outcome 1 is hospitals are over capacity, outcome 2 is that hospitals are not over capacity. Note: it doesn't matter if hospitals are 2x, 4x or 20x over capacity. Patient outcomes once hospitals are over capacity will depend on measures (triage, field hospitals, paliative care etc) unrelated to containment (social distancing etc).

Balance this against the cost of a 20+% drop in global GDP and the cost in unemployment, bankruptcies, suicides etc to try and achieve outcome 1.

To me the benefit cost, when we already have an over and ageing population problem looks a lot like a inter-generational transfer. Except instead of wealth we are transferring lives from the young to the old.

At present our hospitals are pretty much at capacity with the norm life threating stuff of everyday life, ie heart attacks, strokes, cancer, trauma, flu etc.. So what happens to all the run of the mill patients when hospitals are over filled with corona cases? Choices have to be made who lives and dies.. Hope it’s not your child or partner..

But it will be my family. And not only my family but everyone's family unless of course you and everyone else can guarantee that staying home will stop all the mishaps that normally occur.

So ask yourself this, would you rather a sensible across the board protocol to triage patients and divert people who have a low chance of survival away from hospitals into palliative care. Or do you want the shitshow we are seeing in Italy where the massively over worked doctors are being lumped with all the responsibility for really heart breaking decisions?

And then ponder whether guaranteeing that at least one of your friends or family will become long term unemployed is worth a strategy with a very negative expected return.

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[johnny]

Unfortunately the idiots will have brought this upon us (and by idiots I don't just mean selfish ignorant twats going to the beach after stocking up on toilet paper).

Yep.

Expanded the vege garden today.

 

[Haakon]

Spent the day prepping for a job interview and not doing too well at focusing on it. Doesn’t seem so important at present. And passing on a house offer integrate because I won’t be able to go look at it in person and not sure my mortgage broker will be open anyway.

Mum is off the nursery to see if she can get some more seedlings, but luckily she was a nurse once and knows the drill re gloves etc - but that’s their last trip off the property for the time being.

Buckle in folks.

 

[Cardy George]

Yep.

Expanded the vege garden today.

That's on Mrs George's to do list tomorrow

 

[moorey]

Good luck finding seedlings. Hope seeds are more doable.

 

[nathanm]

Glad you have all the answers and shit.

Mate i don't have any answers so not sure why the passive aggressive response, but I do know what I'm talking about with my post.

 

[link1896]

Do we have a specific time vic is locked down Tuesday? All I see is mention of 48 hours.