hifiandmtb
Sphincter beanie
We can only hope!
COVID-19: who’s going full doomsday prep on this?
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Nambra
Definitely should have gone to specsavers
If the transcript reads like waffle, watch the footage - it was pretty clear what Scomo was saying.
In the absence of clear information, err on the side of caution. Instead of wondering if something is still possible, assume it's off limits and stay at home - exercise some common sense. If you're following the PM's press conferences, this country is on a precipice at the moment; we have a real opportunity to get the upper hand on COVID-19 over the next few weeks, but it's a team effort. The message has been pretty clear for a number of days now; you should be at home unless you really can't be. The restrictions continue to tighten because boneheads continue to ignore the advice and do what they think they can get away with. Any community transmission going undetected for even a few days and it all turns to shit.
That's the TL;DR version of the transcript.
Going from "should" to "must" implies a whole new level of enforcement; do we really need to divert resources to that end when simply doing the right thing achieves the same outcome?
hifiandmtb
Sphincter beanie
Fuck no....I made that mistake last time.
foxpuppet
Eats Squid
So do I shut up shop and stand down my workers or keep open in the vain hope someone needs our essential services? I want to do the right thing, my heart says stay home with the family and ride this out. The economic brain says fight to keep my business alive..... if they give me a definitive idea of what we can do with rent etc and maybe I can do both.
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I thought the messaging was a clearer tonight by both of them. Dr Murphy had one of his better nights..
What still isn’t justified is why you can only have 10 people at a funeral but 200 at bunnings.. Why can no more than 2 people can socialise together but 200 can browse bunnings for shit they don’t need..
This is where it gets messy. I find it brutally cruel the person limit of a funeral but not on people who want to by paint.. It’s a really shit, nearly unforgivable, policy..
[mention]johnny [/mention] seems there is more to that medical supplies story.
www.afr.com
If you paste that article into outline.com you can read it.
China spree sparks FIRB crackdown
The federal government has placed immediate and indefinite restrictions on all foreign investment bids following at least two cases of Chinese-owned companies shipping medical supplies to China
If you paste that article into outline.com you can read it.
cokeonspecialtwodollars
Fartes of Portingale
The obvious solution here is to start holding funeral services at Bunnings.
That’s what my kids school principal said. She joked, in all seriousness, that she was going to start renting out the new gymnasium to weddings and funerals..
Flow-Rider
Burner
Have a look at the stats for Australia, yesterday was worse than the day before and highest so far for daily transmission.
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html
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Is an alien from 2007
Irony is of course that Bunnings could easily sell to anyone exclusively online or with door pickup for only the oversize items with only staff allowed in the store. In fact this is what a mate who works there was saying management told them on the day of the cafe/pub/gym closures. If the rationale is keeping tradies supplied so they can fix your roof, wtf is the difference if old mate asks for his bits at the trade counter and brings his ute around to the roller door to load up or uses the webshop from site (or the carpark) then brings his ute around to the roller door to load up?
there'll be some shocking days ahead when the us finally gets its testing game sorted and spain replaces all those dodgy test kits they got last week
Program called contagion on sbs at the moment about a theoretical pandemic in the uk, very good. Worth tracking down and watching.
Nerf Herder
Wheel size expert
Did you see the bit from Spanish officials saying they didn’t buy the kits ... implying kits were part of the CCP saving the world story ... with sub standard kits. Lol
it will never happen, but wouldn’t it be interesting if CCP got toppled ..
Especially if a second rough kicks in China
Flow-Rider
Burner
They have said that there are unknown sources of infections in Australia, whether people have it unknowingly or tests are failing to pick up positive on the virus is another question.
pink poodle
気が狂っている男
Dorm could be fun...
I think that allowing people to choose 6-12 months (longer if this shit blows out) of interest only repayments would be the best option for most situation. The bank gets their mark up rolling in, people don't have runaway interest accrual, an with interest rates so low it wouldn't be too crippling.
There seems to be some scenarios where must should be used. Look at those evictions hifi has mentioned for an example.
That's real tough man. What is the vibe with your staff?
wkkie
It's Not Easy Being Green
You're giving people too much credit that they will do the right thing. Knobs all over Australia in the last few days have already shown that it's not possible for them and they are risking it for everybody and dragging this out for longer and longer.
Flow-Rider
Burner
The Indian approach maybe ?
But seriously people are taking the lockdown as a joke in my area, playing volleyball and house parties.
Nambra
Definitely should have gone to specsavers
Let’s hope you can do both. The PM left the press conference today to go to further meetings around this very issue. He did say employers in your situation should at least hear him out; assistance is coming, makes sense to understand what it looks like before deciding what to do.
Freediver
I can go full Karen
Here you go.[mention]johnny [/mention] seems there is more to that medical supplies story.
China spree sparks FIRB crackdown
The federal government has placed immediate and indefinite restrictions on all foreign investment bids following at least two cases of Chinese-owned companies shipping medical supplies to China
If you paste that article into outline.com you can read it.
China spree sparks FIRB crackdown
Phillip CooreyPolitical Editor
Mar 29, 2020 – 10.30pm
The federal government has placed severe, immediate and indefinite restrictions on all foreign investment bids following at least two cases of Chinese-owned companies in Australia securing tonnes of precious medical supplies and shipping them back to China.
Effective from 10.30pm Sunday, Treasurer Josh Frydenberg lowered to zero the dollar value of every foreign investment bid that would trigger scrutiny by the Foreign Investment Review Board and then, ultimately, by him.
Risland’s CEO Dr Guotao Hu standing in front of bulk supplies of protective clothing bound for China.
Presently, there are varying foreign investment thresholds depending on the buyer, the country in which they are based, and the type of asset being sought. Thresholds range from $1.192 billion to $275 million to zero.
Under the change, the threshold is zero for everything, meaning all bids will have to be weighed against the national interest.
As well as protecting distressed Australian businesses and assets from fire sale takeovers, the crackdown was sparked after two Chinese-owned property developers, Greenland Australia and Risland Australia, had staff secure more than 100 tonnes of equipment and ship it back home.
Greenland employees sourced bulk supplies of surgical masks, thermometers, antibacterial wipes, hand sanitiser, gloves and Panadol in January and February as the coronavirus took hold in its point of origin, Wuhan, and spread throughout China.
On the weekend, the The Sydney Morning Herald reported that Risland flew 82 tonnes of supplies on a corporate jet to Wuhan in late February.
"The chartered plane with 90 tons (82 tonnes) of medical supplies, including 100,000 most needed protective coveralls and 900,000 pairs of medical gloves, has successfully departed from Sydney and arrived in Wuhan on 24 Feb," Risland Australia posted on its LinkedIn page.
Mr Frydenberg said the foreign investment crackdown would last until the coronavirus crisis had passed.
"This is not an investment freeze. Australia is open for business and recognises investment at this time can be beneficial if in the national interest,'' he said in a statement.
"However, these measures are necessary to safeguard the national interest as the coronavirus outbreak puts intense pressure on the Australian economy and Australian businesses.
"These are temporary measures that will remain in place for the duration of the current crisis.
"Where appropriate, conditions will be applied proportionately to address identified risks on a non-discriminatory basis.''
Before the ban was imposed, the threshold for any bid on any asset by a state-owned entity was zero.
Private investors from a country with which Australia has a free trade agreement faced no FIRB scrutiny on bids for non-sensitive businesses valued up to $1.192 billion, and on sensitive assets worth up to $275 million.
Other private investors face FIRB scrutiny on all bids for businesses valued over $275 million. There is a zero threshold for all media acquisitions and different rules again for bids on land and agribusinesses.
For example, private investors from non-FTA countries face a $15 million threshhold on agricultural land, $275 million for developed commercial land and $60 million for sensitive land.
Thresholds on agricultural land and developed commercial land for private investors from FTA countries is $1.192 billion.
The time frame for existing and new applications from foreign investors bids will increase from 30 days to six months.
PM speaks up for Pacific
The potential for China to exploit the crisis is also causing strategic concerns for Australia.
Prime Minister Scott Morrison appealed to fellow Group of 20 leaders during last week's emergency video hook-up to be mindful of Australia's Pacific neighbours when it came to assisting developing nations.
With some 80 nations already appealing to the International Monetary Fund for assistance, the G20 canvassed the prospect of nations collapsing under the economic and health strains of the crisis.
Australia, whose own resources are severely depleted, fears China could use the chaos to extend its influence.
"I explained to G20 leaders that our Pacific island family must be a focus of international support,'' Mr Morrison said after the meeting.
"There has never been a more important time for Australia’s Pacific Step-up as we all face these massive challenges.
"Since January, Australia has provided support for laboratories and public information campaigns, medical equipment, health expertise and for the WHO’s regional preparedness plan.
"We are reconfiguring our development assistance to ensure critical health services can continue to function and to help our Pacific neighbours and Timor-Leste to manage the immediate economic impacts of the pandemic."
Nambra
Definitely should have gone to specsavers
“Private investors from a country with which Australia has a free trade agreement faced no FIRB scrutiny on bids for non-sensitive businesses valued up to $1.192 billion, and on sensitive assets worth up to $275 million.”
Or: you can buy Australia, just not all at once.
If we have to take temporary measures to protect the national interest, we should question whether our FTAs are good for us full stop. Global markets are going to change post coronavirus; all trade agreements should be reviewed and renegotiated to allow us to rebuild our economy. Greater royalties on resources and import tariffs to improve our trade position.
The government should also ban Daigou buying or at least regulate it, otherwise this will remain a backdoor through which the CCP can continue to buy stuff we need here.
Or: you can buy Australia, just not all at once.
If we have to take temporary measures to protect the national interest, we should question whether our FTAs are good for us full stop. Global markets are going to change post coronavirus; all trade agreements should be reviewed and renegotiated to allow us to rebuild our economy. Greater royalties on resources and import tariffs to improve our trade position.
The government should also ban Daigou buying or at least regulate it, otherwise this will remain a backdoor through which the CCP can continue to buy stuff we need here.
rowdyflat
chez le médecin
Good stuff .
Its no good opposing China militarily when we have have allowed them to take over the country by stealth by immigration , political donations and trade .
I suppose most migrants are anti CCP so its not a rascist rant.
On another note if you like science read this https://www.theage.com.au/national/...d-covid-19-into-a-killer-20200327-p54elo.html
If you dont just keep riding your bike.
Its no good opposing China militarily when we have have allowed them to take over the country by stealth by immigration , political donations and trade .
I suppose most migrants are anti CCP so its not a rascist rant.
On another note if you like science read this https://www.theage.com.au/national/...d-covid-19-into-a-killer-20200327-p54elo.html
If you dont just keep riding your bike.