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2015 Giant Reign owners
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JTmofo
XC Enthusiast
Not to mention how difficult it's going to be if selling second hand.
An visual dent (that looks non stock) is a definate "no thanks" for me if I'm buying.
Will be a good bargaining term when if I buy one second hand. "What's this then mate?!"
I'd just link you to this topic haha
Have to make sure they are the 'noob Giant buyer' type.
waldog
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I've just put a Fox DHX RC2 on mine. Yet to take it for a test run, but expecting it to be amazing, but I do love the feel of a coil shock, so I'm biased.
Ultra Lord
Hurts. Requires Money. And is nerdy.
Before throwing it away bang some volume reducers in. Its a simple job and is very effective.
The pack of rubber bands is alot cheaper than a new shock.
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haydenw
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try some volume reducers first, very simple mod that makes quite a difference to the progression of the spring rate as the shock goes deeper into its stroke
udi
swiss cheese
Most air shocks follow a digressive to progressive curve, and the initial spring rate can be very high. The result is, for a reasonable sag setting, the shocks do blow through the middle part of the stroke very easily. Cans like the debonair attempt to fix this, but are less than amazing. A better solution would be a Fox shock with a Vorsprung can, or something like the new Float X2 Air. These should offer a noticeable improvement over your Monarch.
However those will still pale in comparison to a coil shock, so if you're happy with the increase in weight and can find the right spring (ideally in Ti or lightweight steel) then that's the ultimate solution. I think a small shaft RC4 works very well in the Reign if you can find one in correct size.
Why would the vorsprung can work better the the debonair? And would the fox version of them work as well?
A new float x2 is first on the list but is rather $$$. So I have been looking at a monarch plus but other than more oil is there any rear difference between them and the normal monarch? A float x in gold with there fancy new air can in the right size has also popped up locally but will it be any better than the monarch?
Or would I just be better to look at getting the current shock tuned by someone like NSD?
But now it's time to ride, so I'm mite have a think about a coil as I climb.
waldog
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Also very interested to hear your detailed take on this..... Comes across a bit biased without clarification.
I think the M+ Deboniar is a fantastic bit of kit. Granted not many people will find their perfect setup right out of the box, but that's the beauty of it, it's so easily tuneable by the user, so it covers a wider gamut of bikes and riders.
The EVOL and Vorsprung cans look great too, and I'm certain they're the same principle, but at least with the Vorsprung you choose the can to match your bike, and that may give you instantly better performance out of the box, but the theory is the same.
I highly doubt either brand is significantly better over the other.
mitchy_
Llama calmer
Vorsprung Corset's are shock size, not bike specific (except for the specialized enduro and DRCV shocks)
i'm also intrigued as to why a corset is a better offering than a debonair.
dropotaro
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Hi,
I'm currently looking at buying a 2015 reign advanced 1, I was wondering if a size medium would be a tad big. I'm 170cm (5'7") and on the Giant website I am inbetween a small and a medium.
i can't test out sizes due to my location, so any advice would be awesome.
thanks
I'm currently looking at buying a 2015 reign advanced 1, I was wondering if a size medium would be a tad big. I'm 170cm (5'7") and on the Giant website I am inbetween a small and a medium.
i can't test out sizes due to my location, so any advice would be awesome.
thanks
waldog
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Hey, we're near identical in size, I'm 172cm.
Go medium, the extra room is amazing. I would suggest putting a shorter stem on, I'm running a 40mm, and I've now gone back to 740mm bars. Super happy.
dropotaro
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Awesome, thanks for the feedback.
That's what i was wanting to hear. I'm buying second hand and there seems to a lot more mediums available. 3k is about a correct price?
beejay
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I'm 170cm as well and I'm on a medium reign too. Fits perfect with a 40mm stem and 780mm bars for me.
udi
swiss cheese
Just take my word for it - have ridden them all and been in this game for a long time.
In my experience, when it comes to spring curve linearity (which is the exact problem you've objectively recognized and need to solve), the pecking order is:
1. Coil
2. Vorsprung and Float X2 Evol (both cans have similar performance)
3. Regular Evol
4. Debonair
5. Any air shock that isn't equipped with a modern negative chamber can (All DB Air shocks included!)
Getting the current shock tuned is not going to solve your problem at all. Limit yourself to the first two options only if you want a real solution.