Again roady advice and guidance.

Hugor

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I'm also quite amused by the disgust that a significant proportion of the roadie community have towards the road disc brake movement.
I have actually changed shop because of the attitude that I received from the manager when I made enquiries about a road disc bike.
For me it's a safety issue rather than a performance one and they will certainly be on my next bike purchase.
 

Sumgy

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I truly dont care if someone wants to put disc brakes on their bike.
I have never felt I needed more brakes even in the wet.
But if someone else does, good on them.

My opinion is that thy are not needed if you ride to the conditions.
That does not mean that everyone has to have the same opinion.

And dont feel that I am picking only on road disc brakes.
I also think that through axles, 142/12, tapered steerers, BB30 and a heap of other bike stuff is unnecessary too.
 

Calvin27

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I truly dont care if someone wants to put disc brakes on their bike.
I have never felt I needed more brakes even in the wet.
But if someone else does, good on them.

My opinion is that thy are not needed if you ride to the conditions.
That does not mean that everyone has to have the same opinion.

And dont feel that I am picking only on road disc brakes.
I also think that through axles, 142/12, tapered steerers, BB30 and a heap of other bike stuff is unnecessary too.
I don't have so much issue with a heap of development stuff but tapered steerers are an annoyance. It's a half-assed move to keep the same steerer diameter so that the same stems can be used etc. Everyone should just take cannondale's lead and get on with 1.5! This is worse on road bikes with My spesh (roadie) having some stupid 1 3/8 bottom steerer with a custom taper on the fork! Who the hell needs a stronger headset on a road bike?
 

0psi

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I don't have so much issue with a heap of development stuff but tapered steerers are an annoyance. It's a half-assed move to keep the same steerer diameter so that the same stems can be used etc. Everyone should just take cannondale's lead and get on with 1.5! This is worse on road bikes with My spesh (roadie) having some stupid 1 3/8 bottom steerer with a custom taper on the fork! Who the hell needs a stronger headset on a road bike?
Tapered steerers are just as stiff (stiffer according to some tests) that a straight 1.5 and significantly lighter.

I think you'll also find that Cannondale use 4 or 5 different headset standards across their range.
 

0psi

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And dont feel that I am picking only on road disc brakes.
I also think that through axles, 142/12, tapered steerers, BB30 and a heap of other bike stuff is unnecessary too.
Would you like me to nominate you for UCI technical chief?

Honestly, we were just fine with wooden rims and downtube shifters.
 

0psi

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Yep, but marketing hype sells bikes. ;)
There'd still be marketing hype and arguments.

I really like the lighter weight of Balsa but I just can't get past the crappy brake performance. Wolbers new Cedar rim with the charred brake surface treatment seems to be the goods, light durable and great braking performance.
 

brisneyland

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Hey guys, how should a road bike fit?

Test rode a cheap second hand bike today (57cm), top tube felt really short. I also had to really extend my neck to look far enough down the road.

I'm 181 cm tall, my current MTB is a L/XL hardtail with a 90mm stem. It feels much longer in the cockpit than the roady.
 

Sumgy

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Hey guys, how should a road bike fit?

Test rode a cheap second hand bike today (57cm), top tube felt really short. I also had to really extend my neck to look far enough down the road.

I'm 181 cm tall, my current MTB is a L/XL hardtail with a 90mm stem. It feels much longer in the cockpit than the roady.
I would have thought that a 57cm would be too big for you to be honest.
I am 187cm and ride a 58cm.
Then again I would have thought a L/XL (19"?) MTB would have been too big for you too so what would I know.
 

silentbutdeadly

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I really like the lighter weight of Balsa but I just can't get past the crappy brake performance. Wolbers new Cedar rim with the charred brake surface treatment seems to be the goods, light durable and great braking performance.
Braking performance on Balsa rims (all wooden rims to be honest) can easily be sorted by using Stonestop Arkansas whetstones instead of those modern polymer brake blocks....
 

brisneyland

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I would have thought that a 57cm would be too big for you to be honest.
I am 187cm and ride a 58cm.
Then again I would have thought a L/XL (19"?) MTB would have been too big for you too so what would I know.
Hmm. My MTB is definitely not on the small side, but I like it. I'd probably get a medium if I wanted more of a technically oriented bike but it works great for xc stuff.

I ended up buying this POS:




I don't actually know what size it is but the top tube is a bit longer than the other bike I road yesterday. It needs a bit of work (tune, swap brake cables etc) but can't complain too much for $120.
 

Sumgy

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IF, it is a real Concorde it is most certainly not a POS.
Doe the fork have pantographs in the top of it?
Does it have an Italian flag brazed onto the TT?
Is the rear brake bridge a V shape and also pantographed with the word Concorde?
What does the top tube sticker and the Columbus sticker say?

If so it is likely a CIOCC built frame that was built for a Dutch company.
If not then maybe it is a POS with just COncorde stickers on it.

Here is mine that is waiting for some repairs before I build it up completely:







 
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brisneyland

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I think it's real - there's a few photos on the net of Concorde Europas with a similarly garish paint job.

This appears to be one of their real budget models though - made in Taiwan, unknown tubing.
 

Sumgy

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I think it's real - there's a few photos on the net of Concorde Europas with a similarly garish paint job.

This appears to be one of their real budget models though - made in Taiwan, unknown tubing.
OK, the Europa was one of their lower end models.
From what I have just read was made of Ultech 4130 Cromo tubing.
 

RB 24

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oi Sumgy,

did you have an dramas with the headset seating properly??

sorry for being off topic..
 

Sumgy

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Don't know.
Have not tried yet as I am sending it off to get some paint touched up.
Why?
 
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