Electric Vehicles etc

dancaseyimages said:
I can't wait for an electric ute, thats what Im keen on.
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Faircall but range on that one is shite


Claimed range (CLTC)385km (63kWh)
517km (86kWh)		460km (73kWh)
520km (86kWh)

My car - NEDC is 650km, WLTP is 570km, actual with driving it is 500km.

As a rule of thumb, though, consider the EPA figure to be the most realistic with only a few percentage points difference from what one might see in real-world conditions. The WLTP figure to be about 22 percent higher than EPA, and the CLTC number about 35% higher than EPA. CLTC also appears to be a few percentage points higher than NEDC.
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indica said:
My car - NEDC is 650km, WLTP is 570km, actual with driving it is 500km.
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Err Atto 3 standard is 410km NEDC and 335km WLTP, we thought that was plenty and no need of the extended range.

In reality it's 280-300km at 100-110kph highway driving and she still panics when it reaches 30%, 5km from home.

99% of her driving is 20-50km a day around the city but our shack is 265km away, on the rare occasion she drives it up there, she stops 50km from home and bumps it up for 10-15 mins using 350km DC charger while getting a coffee just to make sure :rolleyes:

The manufacturer claimed range is in ideal circumstances with nothing else running at the most efficient speed. Nothing like it will get in real life.
 
I was reading somewhere that around 22% less than WLTP for mixed driving was a fairly common real-world experience.

Our incoming 400km WLTP car should get us easily to our place at the beach (244km) as it's largely down hill and about an eighth of a tank of diesel. On the way back it takes a quarter tank of diesel, but figure it should still sneak it in. Question is whether a weekend of trickle charging will get us enough return juice without installing a charger down there.
 
Tubbsy said:
Question is whether a weekend of trickle charging will get us enough return juice without installing a charger down there.
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It takes a full 24hrs to get her car back to 100% after she arrives using the granny charger in a 10a powerpoint.

Worst case scenario if she needed to get back to the city in a rush, there is a detour to Clare where a DC charger is located about 120km away. If she needed to turn around and head back to Adelaide immediately, she'd be in trouble.
 
Tubbsy said:
I was reading somewhere that around 22% less than WLTP for mixed driving was a fairly common real-world experience.

Our incoming 400km WLTP car should get us easily to our place at the beach (244km) as it's largely down hill and about an eighth of a tank of diesel. On the way back it takes a quarter tank of diesel, but figure it should still sneak it in. Question is whether a weekend of trickle charging will get us enough return juice without installing a charger down there.
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That’s what we do when we travel. Even with driving around a bit during the day we usually end up back at 100% for the journey back home.
 
Haakon said:
Still needs bigger brakes if you're going to beat on it.

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I used to like watching the Teslas do the scoping out then the flying lap at Wakefield then the cool down and charge in the sheds, same for powercruise/Sydney, cool to see them chop up for a lap or two, insanely awesome. (I think the colder days do better for the batteries and regen, but looked like they were having a ball either way.)
 
I got down to 5% a week or so ago lowest I have been. Long distance trip forgot to charge night before. Gambled on a lone charger being free it wasn't so could have waited 1/2 hour or try the next one. Couldn't be bothered waiting so took the gamble was fine in the end but closest I have got to a problem.
 
Out of interest, do any EVs do charge while drive? Lets say you had a honda gen attached to it and running? I assume the fail safes would not allow this given it might assume you are stationary charging but never know.

Also are dirty sine waves a problem?
 
BMW had a range extender option in their first EV but generally it's pretty pointless now with the rate that battery density and charging speed is increasing. I guess slapping the engine on the drive train is cheaper than adding a generator so plug in hybrids won out.
 
Scotty T said:
BMW had a range extender option in their first EV but generally it's pretty pointless now with the rate that battery density and charging speed is increasing. I guess slapping the engine on the drive train is cheaper than adding a generator so plug in hybrids won out.
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Ineos are apparently bringing one out for their next 4WD - electric version plus a BMW-style range extended for getting out into the boonies.
 
Tubbsy said:
Ineos are apparently bringing one out for their next 4WD - electric version plus a BMW-style range extended for getting out into the boonies.
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Errr...Ineos have just said the Fusilier and presumably a similar drivetrain Grenadier are 'indefinitely postponed' due to inconsistent government support for such vehicles in Britain and Europe.
 
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