I said that MUCH of a difference between the fox and the bos. Ofcourse a tuned shock is going to be smoother and hopefully more suitable to your riding style as thats the purpose of being able to set them up. I just believe his claimed time difference is just to much for me to get my mind around 2 shocks with the same spring rate.
I guess its realistic to say Rennie and Delfs will romp the competition this year then.
Just so you know the bos shock is tuned for leverage ratios not for riders nor riding styles. I only slapped on the correct spring rate for his weight and off he went. For your information he did 4 runs on it.
sweet i want to put this to the test. next state round at ourimbah can we organise brock newling (who also rides a glory) or someone just as fast to strap one on then ill be 100% convinced on the brilliance of this shock. im not being a smartass i just want to see it for myself.
Well that's no problem. I can guarantee you that brock likes the shock. Hey i'll even top that. Why don't you ask tom patton who has consecutively beaten brock on the last couple of races (national or state) and ask him what he thinks about his switch to bos shock and forks. He bettered his time at thredbo by 4 seconds since oceanias two weeks before when he was on boxxers.
Of course many will argue it s down to the rider. And i would say that 95% of time it's true but hey we're talking about racing here aren't we and managing to nudge a second here or there is what makes the difference. Right ?
In no way have i bagged a dhx as i know that they are a good shock in all in all. Just thought i'd say that as this is a thread about bos shock and not fox or vivid.
Spring rates only control how much force a spring can take before it is fully compressed. The feel of a shock or fork is in the valving and other internal features.
It would be interesting to compare the new Fox DHX RC4 rather than the 5.0 to the SToy. Any one tried them out?
Yeah i heard nothing but good things about the dhx rc4 but hey we are getting really close to a bos stoy price range here. $1180 retail after market at tbsm.
No shit!
Have you ever ridden a dh bike on a rough course with the wrong spring rate? Its hell! When I first got into downhill, i had a 500lbs spring on my stab and i only weighed 60. Swapping it over to 400lbs made a dramatic improvement on how active the suspension was under my weight. Yes, that made me faster and decreased my times.
SO who says he didn t have the right spring rate on his glory before?
DHXs aren't exactly an incompetent bit of gear... Theres not 12 seconds in a shock swap. Too many variables in DH to put that up as evidence IMO.
However, the elusive 'feel'; if it 'feels' to be working better its a better indication than the time. But then thats also somewhat subjective etc...
End of the day . the proof is in the pudding, one would suggest.
In no way have i said it is and i don t believe kezza did either.
I was having a chat to the bashford brothers at oceanias about time differences. And they told me about markus klaussman testing the bos shock on hi home track (one would argue that variables are reduced to a minimum in those conditions right?) and withint the third run down he beat his on own track record by about 3 seconds if i remember correctly.
Another example from Chris southwood editor of amb told me exactly the same thing about his home track, how he hit everything so much harder , and how that was the fastest he'd ever gone down that track.
Very true that. You'd need to do a fair few more runs that 1 to find the better shock, and only then, it's still a lot on personal preference.
He did 4 runs!
When you think about it it is about a 3.5% difference between the DHX and the Stoy. It doesn't seem nearly as much as 14 seconds. I also think that Thredbo is one of the trcaks where having really good suspension would make a big difference. Would love to try one out.
Thredbo is the perfect track for a shock test. You can really open up and feel the variations and high speed cornering abilities as well as the grip.
Exactly.
If this were to be a proper experiment to see IF there was such a difference between BOS and Fox (which, for the money, I'm sure there is, Nicho), there should be several riders do say, at least 6 runs on their stock shocks, and then change to a BOS shock and do the same number of runs as on their stock shock. Then, average the times and compare them!
Again this is why i am organizing bos shock tests at the state series. Obviously the shock tests are limited to the number of shocks to test but don't be shy to ask. If i have the hardware and the right spring rate then off we go for some shuttles.
nicho