NS Liar Frame brake tab faulty, WTF!!

Discussion in 'Dirt Jumping / 4x / Street' started by tomli123001, Jun 2, 2017.

  1. tomli123001

    tomli123001 Likes Dirt

    I just bought 2017 NS Liar frame from CRC to build my speed machine for BMX track and 4X.
    I finished installed everyhting, leaving brakes last. And the brake tab appeared faulty, not aligned with any IS adapter. I tried Shimano, Sram and Clark in 160mm and 180mm versions. I went to ForTheRiders local shop in Brisbane and they confirmed the frame is off.

    But seriously, how, how is this even possible??!! The brake tab is one piece, not individually welded 2 parts. It must be made in a tooling. HOW could NS get this wrong??? This Liar frame has been same since years ago. I am just now banging my head onto the wall.

    Can this be fixed and any options? Last photo is what I found online, same frame. They must had luck with correct brake tab.

  2. stirk

    stirk Wheel size expert

    Thats a bit out! Should be 51mm centre to centre, measure it and send a wtf email.
    Last edited: Jun 2, 2017
  3. teK--

    teK-- Eats Squid

    NS should post in the fuckwits thread....
  4. pink poodle

    pink poodle Clinically Inane

    Brakes are for pussies.
  5. Ideate

    Ideate Senior Member

    Cable tie m8. Who uses brakes on a BMX track anyway?
  6. Dozer

    Dozer Heavy machinery. Staff Member

    Wow, I've never seen that much of a stuff, such a shame for you! That's a nice frame!
    The quickest way around it would be to have a custom mount made that will line up with your frame holes. Do the science though, if the mounting holes are different by that amount then you may need to have the custom adapter a little lower on one end so the brake pads are running on the middle of the rotor and not off center.
    That would surely warrant a new frame though, thats a massive fuck up.
  7. Calvin27

    Calvin27 Likes Bikes and Dirt

    I've not seen anything like that since building my mates alibaba frame!

    The worst part of this is that you have to strip everything though.
  8. moorey

    moorey Isn't flammable.

    Smaller bolt with a helicoil in the adapter?
  9. pink poodle

    pink poodle Clinically Inane

    What did NS say about it?
  10. moorey

    moorey Isn't flammable.

    "Liar by name..."
  11. pink poodle

    pink poodle Clinically Inane

    But...but..."stay true"..?

  12. moorey

    moorey Isn't flammable.

    True lies. Duh.

    Are you sure if you loosen the other, it won't wriggle over?
  13. pink poodle

    pink poodle Clinically Inane

    Nobody shops with wriggle anymore, the service is terrible. Germans have taken over.
  14. Flow-Rider

    Flow-Rider Eats Squid

    My eyes aren't the best but that part number looks to be for a front mount.
  15. moorey

    moorey Isn't flammable.

    Your eyes seem fine. Looks like F180....except that F180 is same as a R160
  16. Dales Cannon

    Dales Cannon Likes Bikes and Dirt

    Put the screw in the front and show how the rear is drilled.
  17. Flow-Rider

    Flow-Rider Eats Squid

    Or measure the centres.
  18. stinky1138

    stinky1138 Likes Dirt

    NS has a bad reputation for customer service.
    I've emailed them about a couple things in the past, haven't heard back yet....i think 2 years is plenty of time to wait for a reply...
  19. Jpez

    Jpez Likes Dirt

    Yep same. I bought a frame, came with minor damage. They just ignored me. Absolutely the worst CS. just check out their FB page reviews.

    Hope you get it sorted OP.
  20. tomli123001

    tomli123001 Likes Dirt

    Thank you for all the replies.
    A week passed, no replies from CRC or NS for warranty or replacement. I am giving up on them.

    Here is a shot with the bolt on the other hole. The bike almost finished when this issue came up. That is why it is really pissing me off. If can not the fix the frame, the 26" forks, wheels are really no use to me, as 26" frame is now rare and old. I have been buying them over the time for this frame.

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