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contagion

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I then explained to them all the sick as bands that are included in my itunes library. (AC/DC, Nirvana, Jimi Hendrix Experience, Led Zeppplin and so forth.)

And as a reply i got;

"Geez trent you are soo emo"
Please, please hit them for me... with a baseball bat.
 

wombat

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regrettably i got to motorhead a bit too early and saw the end of airbourne earlier this year. they seem to have the right idea, just a tad boring and predictable

on the other hand, Lemmy's still got it. living proof that TRUE rock legends don't die!
I saw all of their set before Motorhead, and I was honestly waiting for them to break into "Sex Farm" or "Big Bottom".
 

downhillboy

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rock aint dead im not sure how many of you lisen to black metal death metal etc.i don't mind bands like metalica or wolfmother there prety good so i rekon rock is gona be arond for ages
 

dweeze

Squid
Rock's not dead - if anything, it is undergoing a resurgence recently. Rock peeps mourned the death of rock in the 70s when disco kicked in; punk sorted that out. Early 80s saw rock on top then, late 80s, techno hit the mainstream (and I cried foul, cos all the rock gigs turned into nightclubs). Indie rock then went mainstream in the early 90s (the day I heard Nevermind for the first time I just knew it would be big (& I was kinda spewing cos I loved being an elitist wanker who ONLY listened to cool underground toons)) and rock went big again.

All this time, pop(ular) music has been 90% pap, styled around whatever the popular fads are. When rock is in, pop follows; when boy bands are in, pop follows...etc, etc.

Fret not, rock wont ever go away. Jazz didn't, soul didn't, funk didn't, country didn't, hip-hop probably wont, dance music (in all its forms) didn't. Certain genres may rise or wane in popularity but, if they ever had any merit, they will always come back some time. Such is fashion...

BTW, why are you hanging out with Timberlake fans, anyway? ;)
 

RYDA

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Rock's not dead - if anything, it is undergoing a resurgence recently. Rock peeps mourned the death of rock in the 70s when disco kicked in; punk sorted that out. Early 80s saw rock on top then, late 80s, techno hit the mainstream (and I cried foul, cos all the rock gigs turned into nightclubs). Indie rock then went mainstream in the early 90s (the day I heard Nevermind for the first time I just knew it would be big (& I was kinda spewing cos I loved being an elitist wanker who ONLY listened to cool underground toons)) and rock went big again.

All this time, pop(ular) music has been 90% pap, styled around whatever the popular fads are. When rock is in, pop follows; when boy bands are in, pop follows...etc, etc.

Fret not, rock wont ever go away. Jazz didn't, soul didn't, funk didn't, country didn't, hip-hop probably wont, dance music (in all its forms) didn't. Certain genres may rise or wane in popularity but, if they ever had any merit, they will always come back some time. Such is fashion...

BTW, why are you hanging out with Timberlake fans, anyway? ;)

aha true. I'm a die hard Nirvana fan owning everything they made even the boxset, with the lights out.

but umm yeah i had to cause they were in my cricket team.

but they seem to be everywhere rock haters
 

NCR600

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Rock and Roll is not dead. Rock and Roll will never die. Rock is not the commercial pap dished out by large record labels, not the massive stadium acts of the 70's and 80's, and it certainly did not die with Kurt Cobain, Jimi or Bonzo.

Real rock and Roll is still to be found in small clubs, pubs, garages and suburban bedrooms all over the world. Despite what the commercial labels might think, rock and roll is rarely a marketable commodity, and in this day and age anything deemed marketable by a major label is almost certainly fake rock, or at the very least a very watered down version of the real thing, sort of like the way alcopops are a pissweak version of hard liquor.

It's not that most people hate rock, it's just that most people don't like music that much. Sure they'll go to a show, buy whatever records they hear on the commercial radio or TV video hits shows, but when you get down to it, they're just not that into music. They don't think about it much, pay much attention to it, and certainly don't want to be challenged by it. So you get "safe" acts that are nothing more than the musical equivalent of McDonalds, and of course, like a Mcdonalds in a shopping centre food court, has a huge queue of people waiting to buy their crap, whilst the excellent little Kebab shop or Noodle bar has 2 customers apeice.

Having said that, the golden age for Rock music is right now. With the internet, finding interesting bands to listen to has NEVER been easier. A few clicks and you're on some obscure band from Ohio's myspace listening to their music. Another couple of clicks and you've bought their record, or a digital facsimile of, downloaded direct to your computer.

Beats the long time practise of buying specialist music magazines, reading reviews and then ordering records with oout ever having heard them on the strength of a review alone.

And personally I couldn't care less if mainstream rock shrivelled up and died. It's no longer considered marketable. Would AC/DC get signed today? No of course bloody not. Don't be stupid. basic blues rock, with a guitarist that dresses as a schoolboy! And they're all UGLY and HAIRY.

However I do believe AC/DC would still be playing music, the same music, probably have a small but loyal following on the pub scene, a myspace page and maybe even supporting the marketable prettyboys in Jet and The Vines.

Rock is not dead. It's not even sick.
Check this thread I posted about the underground heavy rock scene in America. It's there, and it's all over the country, but is totally ignored by the mainstream media, which is just fine by me.

http://forums.farkin.net/showthread.php?t=112173
 

Joel O

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Rock is not dead. It's not even sick.
Check this thread I posted about the underground heavy rock scene in America. It's there, and it's all over the country, but is totally ignored by the mainstream media, which is just fine by me.

http://forums.farkin.net/showthread.php?t=112173
exactly, the day i go to a show and it is swarmed with the 'in' crowd will be the day rock dies*

probably gonna get a few arcing up here but, i'm thinking sort of like daft punk today, they've been doing some really cool shit for a long time almost unnoticed, all of a sudden music festivals become popular and now they're the coolest thing around...

*and by dies i don't actually mean dies, more like gags on its own vomit a little bit or something
 
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Lanky Love

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Call me old fashioned at the age of 15. But how will rock regain its once legendary status?
well one way is to form a band.

and also, what your refering too is classic rock which has had its time. yes i long for those days as well and occasionaly a band comes along that can remind you of those days like wolfmother and guns and roses (when they had slash) to a degree.
but i wouldnt say rock is dead, Muse are one of the most amazing bands ive ever heard and i would put them in the catagry of rock, and theres also the dandy warhols and the black rebel motorcycle club still sounding farily old. but theres bands like bloc party and the arctic monkeys who are both on the more popy side of rock but are still great bands and you cant go past the arcade fire. so although your classic definition of rock is as strong as it was there are some great bands creating hope for music.
 

NCR600

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OK guys, I am a devoted rock and roll fan and always will be.

Do you think the status of rock music dying slowly compared with the absolute god like figures of the yester year such as, Gus Young and Jimi Hendrix?

Like the other day all my mates at cricket were listenening to there 50 cent/justin timberlake crap and asked me why i haed their music so much.

I then explained to them all the sick as bands that are included in my itunes library. (AC/DC, Nirvana, Jimi Hendrix Experience, Led Zeppplin and so forth.)

And as a reply i got;

"Geez trent you are soo emo"

Now if that doesnt say anything bout what the media and that have done to my generation ill eat my hat.

Call me old fashioned at the age of 15. But how will rock regain its once legendary status?
Actually I've just re read your OP and dude, you're 15 (don't take that as an insult, you write well, and I can't yet see you through the screen!)
You probably can't remember a time before the internets. You're probably more computer literate than me or any of the other old fogeys here.

What the hell are you doing listening to AC/DC, Nirvana, Jimi Hendrix Experience, Led Zeppplin and then whining about the old days that happened before you were born. Sure love those bands, exactly as I loved those bands (well, not Nirvana) but they were well past their prime when I was 15!

Get off Farkin, and go and actively search for new, current bands to listen to. There are THOUSANDS out there. Be part of the solution, not the problem. Discover new bands. Actively promote them to your friends. Make rock great again. Make it commercially viable for promoters to have shows in the outer suburbs.

Go. It's up to you to make rock and roll great. Without kids discovering and supporting bands rock and roll is nothing.
 

syphon_the_python

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haha yeah gotta agree with NCR600 on this one. Sure, there are loads of great bands whose music is timeless (hey, I'm a fan of zeppelin, the stones, AC/DC, Hendrix, Credence etc), but make sure you don't turn into your parents and have a wah about new music. Get out there and enjoy the new stuff too, theres plenty of killer stuff that's current.

I've seen plenty of people my age-ish (17) who have fallen into the same trap. Remember, parents of "the good old days" discouraged zeppelin, the beatles and other music now considered classic, some of the best rock ever. Something would be a little wrong if we end up listening exclusively to our old folk's fave bands.


My 2c
 

Rider15

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I then explained to them all the sick as bands that are included in my itunes library. (AC/DC, Nirvana, Jimi Hendrix Experience, Led Zeppplin and so forth.)

And as a reply i got;

"Geez trent you are soo emo"
If your friends call all those bands emo, I think its time to start looking for some new friends.
 

RYDA

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Actually I've just re read your OP and dude, you're 15 (don't take that as an insult, you write well, and I can't yet see you through the screen!)
You probably can't remember a time before the internets. You're probably more computer literate than me or any of the other old fogeys here.

What the hell are you doing listening to AC/DC, Nirvana, Jimi Hendrix Experience, Led Zeppplin and then whining about the old days that happened before you were born. Sure love those bands, exactly as I loved those bands (well, not Nirvana) but they were well past their prime when I was 15!

Get off Farkin, and go and actively search for new, current bands to listen to. There are THOUSANDS out there. Be part of the solution, not the problem. Discover new bands. Actively promote them to your friends. Make rock great again. Make it commercially viable for promoters to have shows in the outer suburbs.

Go. It's up to you to make rock and roll great. Without kids discovering and supporting bands rock and roll is nothing.




mate i have and guess what ive found some great local acts from the Triple J unearthed website

bands such as:

The Sips from Brisbane
Dont Stop Me Now from Bundaberg.

the only thing is all their gigs are 18+.

so its a bit hard for me at the moment isnt it!
 

Elbo

pesky scooter kids git off ma lawn
Two years ago a lot of my mates turned their backs on Rock & Roll and picked up this Justin Timberlake, Kanye West, 50 Cent rubbish.
One of my mates was a serious AC/DC fan, walls were covered with Posters and owned almost every damn song they ever released. Once he turned 18, he started hitting the clubs, this introduced him to the Hip-Hop, Techno, Dance crap that is taking over the young. Now he won't even listen to AC/DC. You used to scroll through the list of artists on his iPod and see a lot of respectable artists. Now you go through his iPod and all the artists are along these sort of lines "Kanye West feat. JT mixed by DJ Fez (club remix)" What the Hell!!

And no, it's not dead, look at Jet, Lenny Kravitz, Foo Fighters and even Ben Harper & the Innocent Criminals have some great stuff. If you listen to these and other similar artists you will realise that Rock & Roll isn't dead, it's just on the bottom of the ocean floor under litres and litres of pop, hip-hop, dance, techno, electronica and rap.
 

Frazzle

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Im very dissapointed...

I came into this thread expecting a replacement for rock in the game scissor, paper, rock :(
 
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