Still Digital Camera

ride_hard199

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ok so heres the deal,
i spend way to much money on bikes so i have decided with my holiday earnings i am gunna buy a better digi cam than the Nikon coolpix 2000 the family has atm :oops:

i have a limit of $500 (not including memory card)

and the camera would need:
to be able to take fairly ok action shots!
and have ok battery life ...

problem is i dont no much about cameras so i need some people to point me in the right direction...
And some people to tell me some websites to go to so i can get an idea on prices and stuff.

thanks
lachlan
 

DYJK

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i recomend that you ask the guy you are buying the camera off, how long it takes after you click for it to take the photo! cause you dont wanna have to press it like 1 seceond before then have to guess when about the photo is being taken!...a very annoying problem i have+ probably many others! :evil:
 

Jaz

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if you look around, you might be able to find the camera I have on closeout for about that much. It is a Minolta Dimage Z1 and is awesome for taking action shots and has one of the best "shutter times" around...it has been superseded only by the Z3 which has 4mp rather than 3.2 and 12x op zoom rather than 10x...not too much different in those respects for a camera costing $400 more at the moment (z3 currently retails for around 900 to 1000).
 

Superman

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DYJK said:
i recomend that you ask the guy you are buying the camera off, how long it takes after you click for it to take the photo! cause you dont wanna have to press it like 1 seceond before then have to guess when about the photo is being taken!...a very annoying problem i have+ probably many others! :evil:
sounds like its just a gap between when ya press the button and the photo is taken.
they are only good for scenery shots because theres nothing moving so ya dont have to worry about timing, but they are no advantage oversomething without the gap. happens with our camera.
its not actually a slow shutter i think, because a slow shutter makes the picture blurry sort of. eg,. a car driving past at night, a slow camera shutter would leave a trail of the light.
 

protecon

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I think what Superman is trying to describe is a delayed shutter or prelonged exposure.
Shutter lag however, is the time it takes for the camera hardware to combine auto focus with exposure settings and capture the image. This can be painstakingly slow with some cameras and makes capturing fast action footage, like mountain biking, almost impossible to predict.
 

matty_2004

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You already know what i think. . .go for it.

Best camera for the price (has been voted that in several contests).

Given 5 stars in most magazines and on most sites.

I use an S7000 (modle up from that) and seriously....it's far too good for me.
 

smooth

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ride_hard199 said:
ok then you camera nerds tell me wat you think of this :

Fujifilms S5500
http://www.digitalcams.com.au/ProductDetails.aspx?item_id=1379017
for $550 it seems fairly good :?
thats the camera weve got just look at our galleries to see the quality.if my memory seves me right( HA yeah right) my mum got it for $420 from the good guys after she got some quotes from other retailers. if you want to know more pm me and ill ask her how she did it
 

GrubNut

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Ok I thought about this long and hard when I bought my $600 camera last year. I read all the reviews ( http://www.dcresource.com/ )and checked out all the specs and I came to the conclusion that the Canons were pretty much the best.

I got a Canon Powershot A70 and i've been really happy with it - one of my favorite toys.

The models have all improved since then though. So heres my simple advice:

Get a Canon A95 if you can afford it. $595 at Dirt Cheap cameras
Will probably be $500 in a month or two.

Otherwise get a Canon A75 or A85. The A85 is $479 at Dirt Cheap. The A75 can be had for under $400 and is excellent value, in fact for the money I would get the A75 over the A85.

The A75 is better than the A70 which was about $650 this time last year.
 

donthucktoflat

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for 500 bucks it would almost be worth getting a analogue SLR camera. it would be a better starting point for photography and will give you the skills to be able to manipulate a digi better. this said, it is much better if you have access to a darkroom, chemicals and photo paper... oh, and an enlarged
 

cam-o

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donthucktoflat said:
for 500 bucks it would almost be worth getting a analogue SLR camera. it would be a better starting point for photography etc etc
Disagree.
Digitals are way better for learning on. If you make a mistake it doesn't cost anything and you know straight away. With a 35mm, you take your shots, get them processed, they suck, you never have that moment again to try some other settings.
With a digital you shoot, look, adjust, repeat as necessary.
Film cameras still have their place in the world (specially for Black and White), but to learn on digitals rule.
 

sawtell

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no matter what camera you end up getting, ask about the multi-shot thing or what ever it is could is like, because i got a pentax optio S, dont get me wrong its a great camera, but for taking sequences it sucks balls, 1 photo ever 0.85 secconds which suks i reckon..well that just one thing i really push when peiople aska bout cameras, because sequences are the best photography.

btw.. i belive that ricohs, usually have a pretty good shot pre second ratio, plus their cameras are rather cheap for the price, but a tad bulky..
 

DJ_Robbie

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sawtell said:
no matter what camera you end up getting, ask about the multi-shot thing or what ever it is could is like, because i got a pentax optio S, dont get me wrong its a great camera, but for taking sequences it sucks balls, 1 photo ever 0.85 secconds which suks i reckon..well that just one thing i really push when peiople aska bout cameras
Yes i was about to say the exact same thing, i absoloutely love sequence shots, they are so easy to take and if and when i get a decent camera its main function will be a good sequence shot, the lag isnt so imporntant then because more photos are taken and you always get the best timimg, make sure the amount of photos it takes in the sequence is high, like 5 or 6.

because sequences are the best photography.
Indeed
 

looseunit

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for 500 bucks it would almost be worth getting a analogue SLR camera. it would be a better starting point for photography and will give you the skills to be able to manipulate a digi better. this said, it is much better if you have access to a darkroom, chemicals and photo paper... oh, and an enlarged
True and not so true, you will learn more about photography shooting b&w film, esp in regard to getting exposures right. This does not matter as much for digital when you can shoot with raw files. But with small digital camera they quite often have very little in the way of manual controls and if they do they are often limited compared to an analog camera.

I say get an SLR (analog or digital) with iterchangeable lens if you are interested in learn about how to take photos. If not get a normal digial camera
 

misunderstood

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i have the minolta dimage z1 and couldnt ask for anymore in the camera.
i paid 850 just after it came out, im not sure what they go for now, but i'd recommend it.
10x optical zoom and pretty much all of the settings you could possibly want, it's the way to go
 

FuTAnT

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As said by a few other users, it's coming down to a few cameras that are really worth their money

Canon A85 or A95
Fuji S5500
Minolta Dimage Z1

See what you can find out there and compare the quality of the photos etc. I like the look and feel of the Fuji but I really want to see some back to back comparisons of the photos against the Canon. I had a S5000 and was really dissapointed of the results, but I think that was 'cause I was coming from a Film background.

As yet, Digital impresses me about as much as a red hot poker up the ass.
 

GrubNut

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lach,

Don't listen to the analogue SLR guys. Forget film, you will learn waaay faster about the fundamentals of photography with a digi as you can take 100s of times more photos and get instant feedback on what you take. I've had both and I've been into photography for over 20 years. Many digital cameras will give you full manual controls these days, even on a budget model (esp. the Canon A75, A85, A95 :) ).

If you are going to spend $500 your main decision is whether you should get a 3-4 megapixel 3x zoom jobbie or a somewhat bigger 10x zoom job.
Got that? good. :p

Don't get a super tiny thing like an Canon IXUS or Pentax Optio unless you really need something that fits in a shirt pocket as you'll sacrifice image quality and features. Don't get too hung up on megapixels either. 3-4 will almost certainly be more than enough, but more is nice of course but I doubt you'll miss it.

If you want a camera you can take out on rides, parties, pub, holidays etc. you'll want something relatively compact - that means a 3x zoom camera. Trust me on this one, it's a real hassle to keep taking a chunky thing out of a special camera bag - you'll want something that will fit comfortably in a jacket pocket if possible. 3x will be enough for 95% of your photos anyway. In this class the Canon A75, A85, A95 are the way to go. You can also get wide, tele and close-up lens attachments for them. :D

In the $500 10x zoom camera range I think its a shootout between Fujifilms S5500 you mention or the Olympus C-760. As well as more zoom they bigger lenses, hence better quality photos, but you probably wont notice the difference. You will be sacrificing a lot of convenience because of the size of the thing though.

All of these cameras that I mention have the goods in terms of features such as full manual controls multiple shots and decent shutter lag.

There you have it. go to
www.dcresource.com
and
www.dpreview.com

And research Canon A75, A85, A95, Fuji S5500 and Olympus C-760.

My recommendation for the top value-for-money camera with lots of manual controls that will should always get the job done is the Canon A75.

I've had an A70. it rocked. I'm about to get an A95 (but I would like a G6).

Other things you might like to think about is the batteries. AAs are the cheaper and more conveient than wierdarse proprierty Li-ion batteries so get a camera that takes AAs if you can. AA NiMh batteries have come leaps and bounds in the last year or two.

Remember what the marketing hype doesn't tell you is that 6Mp is not double the resolution of 3Mp. Resolution is proprotional to the square root of the number of pixels. 6Mp is only about 40% more resolution than 3Mp and 4Mp is only %10 more res than 3Mp! :)
 

ride_hard199

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thanks to everyone for there giving there opinions ...
i think i am going ot go for the fuji s5500
it may be big but i think i will be able to cope with it ... i carry my curent camera in my camel back all the time any way so meh ....

Now all i have to do is work out which size memory card to get
256mb
or 512 mb ??
i will decide when i see wat funds i have left :)

thanks
 
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