pink poodle
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Phone web is so slow. Curse you computer types and your swift responses saying similar things..
The election thread - Two middle-late aged white men trying to be blokey and convincing..., same old shit, FFS.
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pink poodle
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I have a feeling the ABC will be very different by the time we have our next change of government. Unless our powerless GGexercises his ability to whittle down the government. Is that too subtle a reference to gough?
That may not be such a bad thing as long as independence and content is protected. However, I think the temptation to leverage change for some advantage may be too hard to resist for any politician.
pink poodle
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I'm sure independence with be on the block. I also won't be surprised if there is some commercialisation. Which in itself will reduce independence. I also wonder if the commercialisation could lead to privatisation. That is a long shot, but if milo taught me anything it was what business does governemnt have in business?
pink poodle
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But imagine a 10 year term under Abbott. Significant demographic changes - baby boomers completely out of workforce, genX making up a chunk of the grey vote etc. And Australia under a heavy economic burden. Media ownershiplaws changed. I wouldn't expect to see a sell off in 1 or 2 terms, but commercialisation I could. Similar to sbs, not a out breakfast with koshy style.
John U
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Abbott is undermining the legal process at the cost of the ABC at the moment with his comments about the case against the chaser. If he can't take the money away from the abc directly he is using other methods. And he was backed up on these prejudging comments by none other than George Brandis on qanda on Monday.
Dene Dweller
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You'll be welcomed at the port, I think there's three people headed your way on kayaks from Victoria.
Assange is no different than any other egomaniac politician - power seeking, money hiding, sexual assault charged, attention seeking.
Forgive me if I don't act surprised.
Julian Assange wants full control of WikiLeaks Party, says party figure
JARED OWENS
The Australian
March 14, 2014 12:31PM
Julian Assange speaks to media and supporters from the balcony of the Ecuadorean Embassy in London. Source: AP
THE WikiLeaks Party has imploded amid a push by Julian Assange to parachute his associates on to the party executive and shut down its campaigning activities, allegedly over fears the Australian party is damaging his international reputation, a senior party figure says.
Jamal Daoud, a member of the microparty’s national council, has also labelled “dictatorial” party chief John Shipton — the WikiLeaks founder’s father — as “arrogant and disrespectful” and claimed the party holds no meetings and has no active membership.
“They’re not a political party, there’s no discussion, no meetings, no active membership, nothing … It’s like a family convenience store,” Mr Daoud told The Australian.
Mr Daoud said WikiLeaks’ national council had been refused access to the party’s books and that he had been told by Mr Shipton the group is $70,000 in debt despite having no employees and no mainstream media advertising.
The microparty has largely withdrawn from domestic policy debates since winning 0.6 per cent of the national vote at the September federal election, and has since focused on defending the regimes of Syria and Russia against perceived Western conspiracies.
Mr Shipton has refused repeated interview requests by The Australian about the party’s internal operations and would not comment on Mr Daoud’s allegations.
The party has been wracked by internal turmoil since August last year, when the party decided to preference extreme-right parties ahead of like-minded parties such as the Greens.
Although the party blamed an “administrative error”, Mr Daoud said the preferences were directed personally by Mr Assange, who has been inside the Ecuadorean Embassy in London since June 2012 following British moves to extradite him to Sweden to face questioning over a sexual assault investigation.
“They blamed it on an administrative error and set up an inquiry that blamed nobody, found nothing and no recommendations were followed,” Mr Daoud said.
Solicitor Greg Barns, a former election adviser to the party, insisted the preferences directed to right-wing parties in NSW was a genuine administrative error. In Western Australia, Mr Barns said candidate Gerry Georgatos was personally fond of Nationals candidate David Wirrpanda and deliberately placed him ahead of the Greens’ Scott Ludlam.
Mr Barns accused Mr Daoud of peddling a “nasty allegation with no substance whatsoever”.
Mr Daoud said Mr Shipton called him late last Friday night and directed him to resign from the party’s national council, so he could be replaced by one of Mr Assange’s supporters in London.
Mr Shipton and another council member, Gail Malone, were also set to resign and be replaced with associates of Mr Assange, he said.
“The candidates were already decided for Western Australia, but he said Julian doesn’t want candidates in Western Australia and he wants to regain full control of the party,” Mr Daoud said.
“He wanted to take over the party but, because under the constitution nobody can close down the party for five years, what he wanted was for the party to be silent, to run no candidates.
“I said that if Julian thinks the WikiLeaks Party is affecting his popularity, he can resign and we’ll change the name. But you can’t force me out until the AGM, which is before the end of the year.
“In the last two months I noticed they were doing whatever they wanted to, disregarding the constitution.”
The future of the party is now unclear, although it appears the party will change its name.
Mr Daoud said Mr Shipton dominated party affairs on the advice of Mr Assange, with whom he frequently spoke.
“For me, Julian is a ghost. He never emails and he never phones. He gives orders through John,” Mr Daoud said.
“I don’t know how many members the party has or the financial statements of the party, I was never provided with them. I asked who managed the Facebook, and they never answered.
“We were never given any information on how much money was collected. Nobody knows how much was spent or where the money is now.”
Mr Daoud said departing officials and candidates were reluctant to speak out.
Mr Shipton last year announced he would sue Tony Abbott and Julie Bishop for criticising his party’s “solidarity delegation” to Syria. However no lawsuit has emerged.
“I still received an email today from John that the party is broke and more than $70,000 in debt,” Mr Daoud said.
“Why is the party in deep trouble when it spends nothing campaigning? There were no advertisements in the newspapers or TV and employees. So where did the money go?
“I asked two weeks ago to be given a financial statement. I’ve asked in the last two or three weeks to be given a lot of information. I haven’t received any.”
Forgive me if I don't act surprised.
Julian Assange wants full control of WikiLeaks Party, says party figure
JARED OWENS
The Australian
March 14, 2014 12:31PM
Julian Assange speaks to media and supporters from the balcony of the Ecuadorean Embassy in London. Source: AP
THE WikiLeaks Party has imploded amid a push by Julian Assange to parachute his associates on to the party executive and shut down its campaigning activities, allegedly over fears the Australian party is damaging his international reputation, a senior party figure says.
Jamal Daoud, a member of the microparty’s national council, has also labelled “dictatorial” party chief John Shipton — the WikiLeaks founder’s father — as “arrogant and disrespectful” and claimed the party holds no meetings and has no active membership.
“They’re not a political party, there’s no discussion, no meetings, no active membership, nothing … It’s like a family convenience store,” Mr Daoud told The Australian.
Mr Daoud said WikiLeaks’ national council had been refused access to the party’s books and that he had been told by Mr Shipton the group is $70,000 in debt despite having no employees and no mainstream media advertising.
The microparty has largely withdrawn from domestic policy debates since winning 0.6 per cent of the national vote at the September federal election, and has since focused on defending the regimes of Syria and Russia against perceived Western conspiracies.
Mr Shipton has refused repeated interview requests by The Australian about the party’s internal operations and would not comment on Mr Daoud’s allegations.
The party has been wracked by internal turmoil since August last year, when the party decided to preference extreme-right parties ahead of like-minded parties such as the Greens.
Although the party blamed an “administrative error”, Mr Daoud said the preferences were directed personally by Mr Assange, who has been inside the Ecuadorean Embassy in London since June 2012 following British moves to extradite him to Sweden to face questioning over a sexual assault investigation.
“They blamed it on an administrative error and set up an inquiry that blamed nobody, found nothing and no recommendations were followed,” Mr Daoud said.
Solicitor Greg Barns, a former election adviser to the party, insisted the preferences directed to right-wing parties in NSW was a genuine administrative error. In Western Australia, Mr Barns said candidate Gerry Georgatos was personally fond of Nationals candidate David Wirrpanda and deliberately placed him ahead of the Greens’ Scott Ludlam.
Mr Barns accused Mr Daoud of peddling a “nasty allegation with no substance whatsoever”.
Mr Daoud said Mr Shipton called him late last Friday night and directed him to resign from the party’s national council, so he could be replaced by one of Mr Assange’s supporters in London.
Mr Shipton and another council member, Gail Malone, were also set to resign and be replaced with associates of Mr Assange, he said.
“The candidates were already decided for Western Australia, but he said Julian doesn’t want candidates in Western Australia and he wants to regain full control of the party,” Mr Daoud said.
“He wanted to take over the party but, because under the constitution nobody can close down the party for five years, what he wanted was for the party to be silent, to run no candidates.
“I said that if Julian thinks the WikiLeaks Party is affecting his popularity, he can resign and we’ll change the name. But you can’t force me out until the AGM, which is before the end of the year.
“In the last two months I noticed they were doing whatever they wanted to, disregarding the constitution.”
The future of the party is now unclear, although it appears the party will change its name.
Mr Daoud said Mr Shipton dominated party affairs on the advice of Mr Assange, with whom he frequently spoke.
“For me, Julian is a ghost. He never emails and he never phones. He gives orders through John,” Mr Daoud said.
“I don’t know how many members the party has or the financial statements of the party, I was never provided with them. I asked who managed the Facebook, and they never answered.
“We were never given any information on how much money was collected. Nobody knows how much was spent or where the money is now.”
Mr Daoud said departing officials and candidates were reluctant to speak out.
Mr Shipton last year announced he would sue Tony Abbott and Julie Bishop for criticising his party’s “solidarity delegation” to Syria. However no lawsuit has emerged.
“I still received an email today from John that the party is broke and more than $70,000 in debt,” Mr Daoud said.
“Why is the party in deep trouble when it spends nothing campaigning? There were no advertisements in the newspapers or TV and employees. So where did the money go?
“I asked two weeks ago to be given a financial statement. I’ve asked in the last two or three weeks to be given a lot of information. I haven’t received any.”
pink poodle
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They probably should have picked a different party name or maybe just been honest about what they were doing in the first place - trying to gain positive influence/support for ass angle in politics. A little common sense and marketing might have helped, ask Clive the Palmer.
Mattydv
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But hasn't her wealth increased like 15x though? Surely she had some involvement in that...
moorey
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Yeah, like her people would let her make any decisions. She's guarding the bee, at best.
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Dene Dweller
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She knows how to make money but one of the keys to her wealth related to the inheritance was one of the original contracts Lang Hancock entered into with Rio which did not contain a sunset clause. This has ensured continuing royalties to her from the original contract with Hancock Prospecting.
Imagine if Gina and Kerry Packer mated the spawn would never have been on Australia's Next Top Model.
Imagine if Gina and Kerry Packer mated the spawn would never have been on Australia's Next Top Model.
John U
MTB Precision
I think there was a substantial rise in the price of iron ore in there which would've helped also.
I wouldn't credit her with anything, apart from being an awesome example of a terrible human being.
There has been a pretty well documented mining boom over the last decade or so and Iron ore/concentrates are our largest export by volume (and I think value) to China, Japan and ROK, as well as some other countries. However those 3 make up approx 41% of Australian exports and a huge amount of that is iron ore. So, yeah, right time right place, right daddy.
And I'm no fan either. But, she has definitely not bankrupted that company, was at one stage the richest woman in the world and has gone from strength to strength. If you compare her to pre-presidential GW Bush, she's a stellar success.
And I'm no fan either. But, she has definitely not bankrupted that company, was at one stage the richest woman in the world and has gone from strength to strength. If you compare her to pre-presidential GW Bush, she's a stellar success.
pink poodle
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But is she head bee guy?
pink poodle
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But they did. There is a doco about the off spring. It is called wind in the willows. It follows the life of their child named toad of toad hall.
pink poodle
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That's a long bow! She is human, GW is a lesser primate. At least give an example within the same species...