The election thread - Two middle-late aged white men trying to be blokey and convincing..., same old shit, FFS.

Who will you vote for?

  • Liberals

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Labor

    Votes: 21 31.8%

  • Nationals

    Votes: 1 1.5%

  • Greens

    Votes: 21 31.8%

  • Independant

    Votes: 15 22.7%

  • The Clive Palmer shit show

    Votes: 4 6.1%

  • Shooters and Fishers Party

    Votes: 1 1.5%

  • One Nation

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Donkey/Invalid vote

    Votes: 3 4.5%
  • Total voters
    66
johnny

johnny

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Halo1 said:
Really? That’s too simplistic. There was no need for a bi election if Turnbull just sat on the back bench and worked on his next job in the UN or something. He was always going to be a disaster for this libs one way or another.

The sooner we get to a general election to kick this mob out the better.
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Agree that there shouldn’t have been a by election at all, complete waste of money. However I reckon this seat would have gone in the next election anyway.
 
Dales Cannon

Dales Cannon

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Yes, unfortunately Mr Rabbit will only see this as a further betrayal by his foe Turnbull rather than he fucked it all up when he put his arm up Duttons arse.

Anyway landslide on its way.
 
pink poodle

pink poodle

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Now I'm not a fan of our current capito-fascits rulers, but do you guys see any way they can recover from this current slump? I don't and if that is the case, am I the only one wondering if this will split the libs up into new parties? When the democrats folded a more than a few years ago I would imagine some of them slipped into the libs hoping that their moderate side was on the rise. If the libs collapse that would create a terrible vacuum in Australian politics.
 
Dales Cannon

Dales Cannon

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pink poodle said:
Now I'm not a fan of our current capito-fascits rulers, but do you guys see any way they can recover from this current slump? I don't and if that is the case, am I the only one wondering if this will split the libs up into new parties? When the democrats folded a more than a few years ago I would imagine some of them slipped into the libs hoping that their moderate side was on the rise. If the libs collapse that would create a terrible vacuum in Australian politics.
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The biggest vaccum is between a pollies ears.
 
Dales Cannon

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scblack said:
Johnny is completely accurate though.

Malcolm made his intention to leave after any spill very clear.
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This, they either didnt believe him or thought it was a bluff. Either way he did exactly what he said he would.

I will be writing a tome on my ballot paper.
 
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johnny said:
Agree that there shouldn’t have been a by election at all, complete waste of money. However I reckon this seat would have gone in the next election anyway.
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Yeah Trumbull’s vote was already in decline.
If we are going to blame someone lets blame James Matherson for not unseating Abbott at the last election :)
 
johnny

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pink poodle said:
am I the only one wondering if this will split the libs up into new parties?
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There has been lots of discussion on this in knowledgeable circles. You already saw elements of this with Cory Bernardi. However, it's not the first time it's happened; Pauline Hanson was a Lib and KAtter was LNP was well, as was that plump buffoon, whatsis name that made his money from mining and ripping people off.

I'm nowhere near convinced that it's likely, I'd say there is a greater chance that the LNP will lose the next election (provided noting earth shattering like a 9/11 or similar happens between now and May) and the right faction in the LNP will try and use that as a springboard to take control of the party but end up getting smashed from being the catalyst to lose govt in the first place. The other, just as likely outcome is that some of those on the right in the LNP, like Abbott and Dutton, will actually lose their seat in the next election and the right will whither away on their own and the LNP will begin a drift back to the centre and One Nation will pick up the far-right of the LNP.

If Shorten doesn't completely fuck it up, I can see at least two terms for the ALP after the coming election. And that's not an attractive proposition, at all.But the LNP needs to hit rock bottom before it can become a viable alternative again.
 
johnny

johnny

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Reckon there's a high likelihood that J-Bish will be the next LNP party leader and maybe the first LNP PM.
 
Dales Cannon

Dales Cannon

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johnny said:
There has been lots of discussion on this in knowledgeable circles. You already saw elements of this with Cory Bernardi. However, it's not the first time it's happened; Pauline Hanson was a Lib and KAtter was LNP was well, as was that plump buffoon, whatsis name that made his money from mining and ripping people off.

I'm nowhere near convinced that it's likely, I'd say there is a greater chance that the LNP will lose the next election (provided noting earth shattering like a 9/11 or similar happens between now and May) and the right faction in the LNP will try and use that as a springboard to take control of the party but end up getting smashed from being the catalyst to lose govt in the first place. The other, just as likely outcome is that some of those on the right in the LNP, like Abbott and Dutton, will actually lose their seat in the next election and the right will whither away on their own and the LNP will begin a drift back to the centre and One Nation will pick up the far-right of the LNP.

If Shorten doesn't completely fuck it up, I can see at least two terms for the ALP after the coming election. And that's not an attractive proposition, at all.But the LNP needs to hit rock bottom before it can become a viable alternative again.
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Spot on. Mrs Palmer's boy is the other one. Dutton will lose by at least a 10% swing. Abbot may survive, who knows what his locals think. Just a pity the Labour leader isnt AA, he would do a great job and he isnt a brainless numpty.
 
johnny

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Abbott's electorate is quite dissatisfied with him and his preselection was no picnic. They voted 75% for SS marriage whilst he campaigned against it. They are also unhappy with his wrecking role. I won't be that he will lose his seat but I reckon he's on shakier ground than Howard was in 2008.
 
Dales Cannon

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So they are a member of the LNP but didnt get preselection so therefore stand as an independent with LNP values because they are the best man/woman/battlecruiser for the electorate? Sour grapes or are they trying to hide their affiliation? Given the scrutiny of people who choose public life would expose such membership seems weird to me.
 
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