ahhh sorry missed that - carry on
The election thread - Two middle-late aged white men trying to be blokey and convincing..., same old shit, FFS.
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Haakon
has an accommodating arse
With all due respect, I’d say that’s a little naive. I’m not getting into tin foil hat territory to suggest a businessman would spend money on avoiding a political environment that was unfavourable.
The preference deal was made early on. I’d say it’s reasonably clear what the plan was and he just said so openly.
Flow-Rider
Burner
Last time I looked, one of the main coal mining ports in North Qld was owned by the Government and leased out for millions.
Calvin27
Eats Squid
Lobbying has sme of the most beautifully astronomically high cost benefit ratios around.
moorey
call me Mia
This is true. Particularly in the US. As little as a $5000 legal bribe can net you multi millions.
Final approvals are a state matter. Clive has Clive's interests first and foremost in mind. New Anna has a fine line to walk before the next election. It seems that should the govt pull the pin on Adani it risks the loss of several seats. If it doesnt then a couple of brisbane seats are at risk.
My opinion is that there should be a moratorium on all coal development whether it be green or brown (black) field.
Does that come in plus sizing?
Haakon
has an accommodating arse
It was a federal election. I still struggle to understand why you would vote local on a federal election...
Exactly, and the simple fact is that he’s pulled this kind of thing many times before, just not with monumental price tags.
Sure, he would have liked to win a seat or two but his major goal was to block the ALP - not because he doesn’t like shorten but that he doesn’t like govts that block mining projects or that empower the green electorate.
I wouldnt be surprised if he has a history with shorten.
hifiandmtb
Sphincter beanie
Watch out - @Dales Cannon 'll rip ya head 'orf!
Ultra Lord
Hurts. Requires Money. And is nerdy.
great mod off 2019
Well I heard they dated when they were at uni but nothing came of it.
They probably couldn't work out where the naughty bits were.
Exhibit A (2012):
Clive Palmer says Greens in CIA plot
March 20, 2012 — 6.09pm
Billionaire mining magnate Clive Palmer has accused the Australian Greens of being in cahoots with a "foreign power" and the CIA to eat away at Australia's economic advantage.
But he denies he is a conspiracy theorist.
Mr Palmer launched an extraordinary attack on the Greens and environmentalists during a press conference on Tuesday, saying they were being funded by the US spy agency to undermine Australia's national economy.
A leaked plan by an Australian anti-coal group to thwart coal projects is proof of the accusation, he says.
Mr Palmer said the document showed the anti-coal group was funded by the US Rockefeller Foundation, an American philanthropic group he described as a conduit of the CIA and the US government.
The alliance was trying to undermine the Australian economy and offset the geographic advantage of Australia's proximity to Asia.
"This is a serious matter indeed because it goes to the political independence of all Australians," he told journalists on Friday.
"We don't want domination by a foreign power, and that's what we've got here."
Asked what the US agenda was, Mr Palmer said, "I think they want to promote their economies at the expense of ours."
He said all Greens candidates should resign if they were being funded by a foreign political power.
"It's tantamount to treason, and something needs to be done about it."
Queensland anti-coal seam gas activist Drew Hutton, who is named in the document as part of an advisory group, was a puppet of the Americans, he said.
"Drew Hutton is a tool of the US government and Rockefeller, and so are the Greens and everything they say. It's as simple as that," he told reporters.
Mr Palmer said he was not a conspiracy theorist because "it's here in black and white".
"You only have to look at this secret budget which was passed by (the US) Congress last year, bigger than our whole national economy ... the CIA's got to ensure that.
"You only have to read the reports to US Congress where the CIA reported to the president that their role was to ensure the US competitive advantage and economic advantages.
"That's how you know it's funded by the CIA."
Mr Palmer had called the press conference to announce that he would not seek a High Court challenge against the federal government's mining tax.
Palmer does not regret CIA claims
By Nathan Paull
March 26, 2012 — 3.52pm
Mining magnate Clive Palmer does not regret saying the Greens were conspiring with the CIA against Australia's resources industry, because his comments served their purpose.
Mr Palmer told reporters in Brisbane today the claims he made last week provided enough distraction from the Queensland election campaign for negative aspects of the Liberal National Party to be overlooked.
He said the fact the claims were taken up by Prime Minister Julia Gillard and Deputy Prime Minister Wayne Swan and covered extensively in the media helped the LNP's campaign in Queensland.
"It took a great lot of attention off some of the negative aspects of the election. That was a very good thing," he said.
"It's wonderful that all of you could play a small role in having Campbell Newman elected as premier of Queensland, so well done, you all deserve a round of applause."
Asked if he had made up the claims, Mr Palmer told reporters he did not think the CIA was involved with the Greens or Greenpeace as he had previously suggested.
"That's something I wouldn't say at this stage," he said.
"A mistake doesn't become an error until you refuse to correct it, so I'm still thinking about that one.
"But let me just say I don't regret having made that statement."
Mr Palmer launched the extraordinary attack on the Greens and environmentalists during a media conference last week, saying they were funded by the US spy agency to undermine Australia’s national economy.
A leaked plan by an Australian anti-coal group to thwart coal projects was proof, he said at the time.
Mr Palmer said the document showed the anti-coal group was funded by the US Rockefeller Foundation, an American philanthropic group he described as a conduit of the CIA and the US government.
He said on Monday it was clear Greenpeace was receiving funding from the foundation but did not suggest the CIA was behind it for political reasons.
‘‘Who can say where they (the foundation) get their funding from?’’ he said.
‘‘All we can say really is that ... (when they were) founded in 1974 that half of their funding came from the Central Intelligence Agency in the United States.
‘‘And I know that’s 40 years ago. It may not be the case now.’’
Mr Palmer’s claim made national headlines, prompting Queensland and federal politicians, including Ms Gillard and Mr Swan, to comment on its credibility.
Anti-coal seam gas activist Drew Hutton threatened to sue Mr Palmer after the billionaire referred to him as a ‘‘tool of the US government’’.
Mr Hutton said Mr Palmer owed him a public apology.
‘‘I was the one person he named quite explicitly and he refused to back away from the assertion that I was an CIA operative,’’ Mr Hutton said.
‘‘It’s a despicable thing to defame someone for political advantage.’’Mr Hutton said he would not pursue a defamation lawsuit.
‘‘It’s a stupid action on his part and I am more concerned about his mental health than I am about my own good name,’’ he said.
He feared Premier Campbell Newman would not have the ‘‘gumption’’ to stand up to Mr Palmer, the LNP’s biggest donor.
So, look at his strategy of misdirection in this instance, that was used to undermine the ALP and Greens, who were active in ways that did not suit his interests.
Then, look at the kooky shit he carried on with in this election "The Chinese are building airfields in WA to invade the country and Labor is letting them" and all that shit. Also, look at where he was trying to direct preferences.
Now, tell me that you don't see a pattern here.
And this is only one example. Palmer was a political speech writer years ago and was neck deep in the LNP. He has a long history of playing games like this and he has the money to do it on a monumental scale.
Walks like a duck, quacks like a duck.........
Clive Palmer says Greens in CIA plot
March 20, 2012 — 6.09pm
Billionaire mining magnate Clive Palmer has accused the Australian Greens of being in cahoots with a "foreign power" and the CIA to eat away at Australia's economic advantage.
But he denies he is a conspiracy theorist.
Mr Palmer launched an extraordinary attack on the Greens and environmentalists during a press conference on Tuesday, saying they were being funded by the US spy agency to undermine Australia's national economy.
A leaked plan by an Australian anti-coal group to thwart coal projects is proof of the accusation, he says.
Mr Palmer said the document showed the anti-coal group was funded by the US Rockefeller Foundation, an American philanthropic group he described as a conduit of the CIA and the US government.
The alliance was trying to undermine the Australian economy and offset the geographic advantage of Australia's proximity to Asia.
"This is a serious matter indeed because it goes to the political independence of all Australians," he told journalists on Friday.
"We don't want domination by a foreign power, and that's what we've got here."
Asked what the US agenda was, Mr Palmer said, "I think they want to promote their economies at the expense of ours."
He said all Greens candidates should resign if they were being funded by a foreign political power.
"It's tantamount to treason, and something needs to be done about it."
Queensland anti-coal seam gas activist Drew Hutton, who is named in the document as part of an advisory group, was a puppet of the Americans, he said.
"Drew Hutton is a tool of the US government and Rockefeller, and so are the Greens and everything they say. It's as simple as that," he told reporters.
Mr Palmer said he was not a conspiracy theorist because "it's here in black and white".
"You only have to look at this secret budget which was passed by (the US) Congress last year, bigger than our whole national economy ... the CIA's got to ensure that.
"You only have to read the reports to US Congress where the CIA reported to the president that their role was to ensure the US competitive advantage and economic advantages.
"That's how you know it's funded by the CIA."
Mr Palmer had called the press conference to announce that he would not seek a High Court challenge against the federal government's mining tax.
Palmer does not regret CIA claims
By Nathan Paull
March 26, 2012 — 3.52pm
Mining magnate Clive Palmer does not regret saying the Greens were conspiring with the CIA against Australia's resources industry, because his comments served their purpose.
Mr Palmer told reporters in Brisbane today the claims he made last week provided enough distraction from the Queensland election campaign for negative aspects of the Liberal National Party to be overlooked.
He said the fact the claims were taken up by Prime Minister Julia Gillard and Deputy Prime Minister Wayne Swan and covered extensively in the media helped the LNP's campaign in Queensland.
"It took a great lot of attention off some of the negative aspects of the election. That was a very good thing," he said.
"It's wonderful that all of you could play a small role in having Campbell Newman elected as premier of Queensland, so well done, you all deserve a round of applause."
Asked if he had made up the claims, Mr Palmer told reporters he did not think the CIA was involved with the Greens or Greenpeace as he had previously suggested.
"That's something I wouldn't say at this stage," he said.
"A mistake doesn't become an error until you refuse to correct it, so I'm still thinking about that one.
"But let me just say I don't regret having made that statement."
Mr Palmer launched the extraordinary attack on the Greens and environmentalists during a media conference last week, saying they were funded by the US spy agency to undermine Australia’s national economy.
A leaked plan by an Australian anti-coal group to thwart coal projects was proof, he said at the time.
Mr Palmer said the document showed the anti-coal group was funded by the US Rockefeller Foundation, an American philanthropic group he described as a conduit of the CIA and the US government.
He said on Monday it was clear Greenpeace was receiving funding from the foundation but did not suggest the CIA was behind it for political reasons.
‘‘Who can say where they (the foundation) get their funding from?’’ he said.
‘‘All we can say really is that ... (when they were) founded in 1974 that half of their funding came from the Central Intelligence Agency in the United States.
‘‘And I know that’s 40 years ago. It may not be the case now.’’
Mr Palmer’s claim made national headlines, prompting Queensland and federal politicians, including Ms Gillard and Mr Swan, to comment on its credibility.
Anti-coal seam gas activist Drew Hutton threatened to sue Mr Palmer after the billionaire referred to him as a ‘‘tool of the US government’’.
Mr Hutton said Mr Palmer owed him a public apology.
‘‘I was the one person he named quite explicitly and he refused to back away from the assertion that I was an CIA operative,’’ Mr Hutton said.
‘‘It’s a despicable thing to defame someone for political advantage.’’Mr Hutton said he would not pursue a defamation lawsuit.
‘‘It’s a stupid action on his part and I am more concerned about his mental health than I am about my own good name,’’ he said.
He feared Premier Campbell Newman would not have the ‘‘gumption’’ to stand up to Mr Palmer, the LNP’s biggest donor.
So, look at his strategy of misdirection in this instance, that was used to undermine the ALP and Greens, who were active in ways that did not suit his interests.
Then, look at the kooky shit he carried on with in this election "The Chinese are building airfields in WA to invade the country and Labor is letting them" and all that shit. Also, look at where he was trying to direct preferences.
Now, tell me that you don't see a pattern here.
And this is only one example. Palmer was a political speech writer years ago and was neck deep in the LNP. He has a long history of playing games like this and he has the money to do it on a monumental scale.
Walks like a duck, quacks like a duck.........