Things the MTB industry does wrong

[Mr Crudley]

Just like condoms, always too short and waaay too skinny.

Also pretty worthless on the used market.

 

[Calvin27]

Can we talk about standards here or no?

 

[Mr Crudley]

Can we talk about standards here or no?

That ol' chestnut has to be cracked opened. Do your best and I agree already.

 

[moorey]

The Henry Ford statement comes to mind.

It’s also false....there were numerous colour options on the model T.

 

[Asininedrivel]

It’s also false....there were numerous colour options on the model T.

Nah different one about if he asked the public what they wanted he'd have developed a faster horse.

....unless you're being facetious.

 

[moorey]

Impossible - imagine trying to get a agreement on that - we don't need 29" - we don't need 27.5" - we don't need more than 26" - I say the majority of people are unable to effectively determine what they want or need for themselves

Maybe so, but it’s marketing and sales driven, not rider driven.
100x15mm axle was a pointless joke. 20x110 way better.
142x12 was pointless. So is boost. 150x12 was perfectly fine.
Press fit is moronic.
256764 seat tube sizes is moronic.
35mm bars are pointless.
I could go on. No improvement, only grief and expense for the user.

 

[moorey]

Nah different one about if he asked the public what they wanted he'd have developed a faster horse.

....unless you're being facetious.

I think that was discredited as a Ford quote.
https://www.entrepreneur.com/article/290410

 

[HamboCairns]

Maybe so, but it’s marketing and sales driven, not rider driven.
100x15mm axle was a pointless joke. 20x110 way better.
142x12 was pointless. So is boost. 150x12 was perfectly fine.
Press fit is moronic.
256764 seat tube sizes is moronic.
35mm bars are pointless.
I could go on. No improvement, only grief and expense for the user.

One tapered tube size, even for entry level bikes.

 

[Calvin27]

imagine trying to get a agreement on that - we don't need 29" - we don't need 27.5" - we don't need more than 26" - I say the majority of people are unable to effectively determine what they want or need for themselves

I actually don't mind wheel sizes. We have bikes in different sizes so why not wheels. As per OPs original comment, bike proportions change when the sizes change. They sort of do that now with 29/27.5 for different sizes already.

I'm going to add geoblocking to the list. Does nothing but make people angry.

 

[moorey]

One tapered tube size, even for entry level bikes.

Forgot to say 1.5” steerers all round, and 49mm HT. Maybe 56 If we want ZS headsets.
Tapered is the answer to a Q no one asked.

 

[Elbo]

The LBS shouldn't be run like a car dealership.
Marketing (and maybe working in the industry for a number of years) almost killed my love of cycling.
And @Calvin27, agree on geoblocking. Frustrating.

 

[oliosky]

35mm bars are the fkn worst. And any BB/cassette/hub that needs a proprietary tool to adjust or remove.

Oh, and XD and microspline hub drivers. I get that the old HG driver needed an update but at least have one new driver type. Both S companies are cnts for that.

 

[moorey]

35mm bars are the fkn worst. And any BB/cassette/hub that needs a proprietary tool to adjust or remove.

Oh, and XD and microspline hub drivers. I get that the old HG driver needed an update but at least have one new driver type. Both S companies are cnts for that.

HG absolutely needed an update...just wish we could stick to one. I’m a fan of XD....aside from the numerous bikes I’m still running 10sp.
Also, can you SS an XD?

 

[Jim Junkie]

I'm going to add geoblocking to the list. Does nothing but make people angry.

So angry. It'd be fine if I could buy all the stuff in Australia, but I can't.

Sole distributors would be another pet peeve (if that's the right terminology). Used to be a day when I could go to a bike shop and check out different brands, have some choice in accessories. Now I have to make a choice of the Giant store, or the Trek store, or the shit one with shitty bikes.

I wanted a torque wrench from one a while back, all I could chose from was Giant, Giant or Giant. And it didn't meet my needs (but the owner told me it did despite my protestations). It's not a wonder I go online to buy all my stuff, at least I can chose what I want that way.

 

[droenn]

Now I have to make a choice of the Giant store, or the Trek store, or the shit one with shitty bikes.

tautology

 

[cokeonspecialtwodollars]

HG absolutely needed an update...just wish we could stick to one. I’m a fan of XD....aside from the numerous bikes I’m still running 10sp.
Also, can you SS an XD?

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[The Reverend]

It’s also false....there were numerous colour options on the model T.

I meant the faster horse quote..
Read replies above and it seems that's wrong too. Is nothing on the internet true?

 

[pink poodle]

I meant the faster horse quote..
Read replies above and it seems that's wrong too. Is nothing on the internet true?

It's all true and it's all false.

 

[Haakon]

Press fit is moronic.

watching hambini videos changed my mind on press fit... Nothing wrong with it if the frame maker is any good.

 

[moorey]

watching hambini videos changed my mind on press fit... Nothing wrong with it if the frame maker is any good.

They mostly aren’t, clearly.