Trump..... (The Sophistry Thread)

Bullshit. Trump has repeatedly publicly bagged out the good old USA. Why do you think he needs to MAGA if it isn’t great?

...because that filthy commie Obama destroyed America! Like totally destroyed it, and on purpose too. He wasn't even born there! The man was a commie plant sleeper agent activated to destabilise the national unity. Without Don there would have been another civil war and a split of the union. Don has saved the good old U S of A and he has the north certificate to back up that claim.
 
...because that filthy commie Obama destroyed America! Like totally destroyed it, and on purpose too. He wasn't even born there! The man was a commie plant sleeper agent activated to destabilise the national unity. Without Don there would have been another civil war and a split of the union. Don has saved the good old U S of A and he has the north certificate to back up that claim.

poods may be joking , that’s not all that far wrong...
 
poods may be joking , that’s not all that far wrong...

Sadly it is all a paraphrase...if only there ha been a smooth line from Regan to bush 1, 2, and 3...then the whole world wouldn't be in this mess and we would all be happy. Fucking corrupt Clinton and commie Obama have doomed us all. Vote for the elephant and the gun! Salvation demands it.
 
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Seen redder.
 
Have the debate on... Trump is killing it, Biden comes off as weak and dithering. Trump 2020.
Are we watching the same thing or do you just have money on the orange one? Trump is acting exactly as he always does - a spoilt toddler. Even the moderator is getting the shits with him. Biden's getting stuck with his stutter a bit but he's getting his points across pretty well, better than I'd hoped.
 
Im listening to how the Americans will hear it... Most wont listen to what's actually being said, they will hear the strong and confident answers of trump.
 
Im listening to how the Americans will hear it... Most wont listen to what's actually being said, they will hear the strong and confident answers of trump.
What, they're all one amorphous single entity of MAGA? Interesting concept. Trump is coming across as a bully who can't answer a single question put to him whether it's pandemic response, repeal of Obamacare, policing, white supremacists, tax returns or a myriad of other bullshit. Yes his base will lap it up cus he's "owning the libs" but they do not represent the entire country - far from it.
 
What, they're all one amorphous single entity of MAGA? Interesting concept. Trump is coming across as a bully who can't answer a single question put to him whether it's pandemic response, repeal of Obamacare, policing, white supremacists, tax returns or a myriad of other bullshit. Yes his base will lap it up cus he's "owning the libs" but they do not represent the entire country - far from it.

i hope you're right.
 
Biden wasn't confident enough but he at least gave accurate figures, dates and plans for anything that he said.

Trump was vague, confident and showy as always.

To paraphrase (but reasonably close to his vague waffle)
Trump on climate change and fires...
I was talking to the president of one of those countries in Europe that has more forests, the biggest forests, forest cities they call em... well they're more flammable and they use forest management....

Climate change mic drop!
 
Arguably no worse than the average Question Time here.

even with their current populist experiment in full swing, the UK question time is still civilised. questions with actual answers in that order...

Australias question time is just embarrassing...
 
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