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Very hard not getting conspiratorial looking at Iowa.
There's no conspiracy and the fact that people keep screaming conspiracy with absolutely no evidence makes the democrats and their supporters look even more fragmented and unelectable. This is exactly the same shit that was happening with Labour in the UK and they got creamed because of it.
 

moorey

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There's no conspiracy and the fact that people keep screaming conspiracy with absolutely no evidence makes the democrats and their supporters look even more fragmented and unelectable. This is exactly the same shit that was happening with Labour in the UK and they got creamed because of it.
No. There were numerous vote count fuckups. And they always went against Bernie.
Delegate allocations were initially given to people who barely got a vote.
I never said it was a conspiracy...but it is easy to look at it as one.
 

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"I never said it was a conspiracy... but it is easy to look at it as one" sounds a hell of a lot like Trump's "people are saying..."
It's a great way to spread unfounded rumours and it's exactly that sort of division that plays right into the hands of the opposition.

The more I look at this the more I have to shake my head in dismay. The Dems are totally tanking this through a mixture of both ego and incompetence. The fact that they started with 25 candidates and are still sitting with 11 this late in the game shows a lack of discipline within the party and is testament to the fevered egos who have no business being there but are happy to bludge off campaign contributions and tear strips off each other to the bitter end.

Trump is in an almost unassailable position at the moment. The US economy is pretty good right now and he's been great at claiming credit for it. Regardless of the fact that the steady climb kicked off at the start of Obama's 2nd term, that is all that matters to most voters. He's also shown that he's untouchable in the eyes of the law, has the full support* of his party and will be emboldened to make further attempts at rigging the election because the idea of a 2nd impeachment is unfathomable.

The only hope the Democrats have is showing a united front behind a strong candidate who won't rock the boat as far as jobs go and they are a long way from that.

*Romney excepted
 

moorey

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Agree to disagree about his position. Everyone other than the deplorables knows he’s guilty AF, and the system is broken.

It’s the Dems election to lose. I have no doubt they can if they push Bloomberg or Biden into the election.
 

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They know he’s guilty but they don’t care

As a former campaign manager for another Presidential election winner and impeachment survivor once said “it’s the economy, stupid”

Sanders and Warren are seen as economically dangerous by middle-Americans. I know because I work with a lot of them. You’re not going to be able to un-fuck decades of vehement anti-socialist indoctrination in a couple of months, especially when the pendulum has swung even further to the right than ever before.
 
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