What do MTBers want?
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Grip
Yeah, yeah... blah, blah.
Well... I did say that this might be an interesting thread, eh? And listen I don't need to calm down because the red pills will cut in soon. Still, it annoys me when folks talk "knowingly" 'bout what they know nought... especially if that then gets it in OTHER folks heads that maybe we're nothing but rip-off merchants. Lets face it if we are selling a product for $349 and someone "knowingly" STATES that it is NOT complicated and should NOT cost more than $100 then that person is saying we are ripping people off... and the post I replied to was NOT simply a wish-list by pana it was a very clear statement that said - workstands are not complicated to make and they should NOT be more than $100.
Hmmm.
Anyway there are actually some very good ideas coming out of this. Maybe I'll just sit back and read 'em and keep the talk hole shut then.
Cheers
Hmmm.
Anyway there are actually some very good ideas coming out of this. Maybe I'll just sit back and read 'em and keep the talk hole shut then.
Cheers
I reckon i can do it with the same or less chain length than a conventional derailleur, and the same number of rollers, and a lot less than a rohloff (however there is no way i could make a geared hub for less than rohloffSocket said:
)I'll post a design when i get around to it.
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Are you intending to put the derailleur in front of the cassette, or behind? Behind automatically requires more rollers, in front, well, I'll believe it when I see it (remember that little thing called a chainstaybelly_up said:I reckon i can do it with the same or less chain length than a conventional derailleur, and the same number of rollers, and a lot less than a rohloff (however there is no way i could make a geared hub for less than rohloffSocket said:
I'll post a design when i get around to it.
)Simplifying the drivetrain is the only thing i can think of when i look at my bike, everything else performs flawlessley for me. Frame is great, brakes are simple and work great, wheels are good, cockpit parts all do nice. The drivetrain however is annoying, very susceptable to damage, always needs adjustments, you all know about it. It's probably one of the hardest things to fix though...
Maybe Aireal could get in on trying to make internally geared hub, maybe get those shimano nexus 7-speed ones and flog the design but make it more up to a beating. Imagine it, a clean SS look with a bashguard, maybe a small tensioner like the dmr 'tension seeker' for FS bikes with chain growth. No noisy derallier bouncing up and down...
oh, and a portable kicker that folds and can be lugged around would be sweeeet, i think companies already do it for skateboards... i might look into that.
Maybe Aireal could get in on trying to make internally geared hub, maybe get those shimano nexus 7-speed ones and flog the design but make it more up to a beating. Imagine it, a clean SS look with a bashguard, maybe a small tensioner like the dmr 'tension seeker' for FS bikes with chain growth. No noisy derallier bouncing up and down...
oh, and a portable kicker that folds and can be lugged around would be sweeeet, i think companies already do it for skateboards... i might look into that.
Sorry for being off topic here Grip but...
Has anyone ever tried to give a nexus hub a good beating? You never know, they might be up to being used on an urban / park / jump bike. If anyone has given a nexus hub a run and found it lacking, please feel free to point, laugh and make derisive comments about what a fool I am.
Has anyone ever tried to give a nexus hub a good beating? You never know, they might be up to being used on an urban / park / jump bike. If anyone has given a nexus hub a run and found it lacking, please feel free to point, laugh and make derisive comments about what a fool I am.
I've been thinking about this derailleur design since last night, and i still think i can do it, but you never realise how clever and versatile the standard style rear derailleur is. It can cope with a lot of different ideas and features that were never conceived when it was invented. Very clever person who invented it. It's definately up there with the CV joint for the "what the hell were you smoking when you came up with this?" factor.
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i'm glad my idea has brought about some "discussion', but it was just a quick idea, i didn't really think of the complictions in making a top mounted deraileur. i am not really up to date with this Rolhoff stuff so i'll have to go figure out what it is/does. the reason i suggested it, was, because of these stupid replaceable hangers, all companys have different designs, so when you break one in the middle of nowhere, your fucked (i know of course you can break the chain and run it in SS), but a top mounted one would reduce the chances of breaking it heaps, unless you wear REALLY baggy pants.
Belly_up, i'd also like to see your design, maybe start a new thread in the parts forum to further discuss this.
i saw on some site, a drive train that was more like a drive shaft, that transfers power through differentials, this would be a sure fire way of cleaning up the drive train area. i think i was it on an all wheel drive bike.
Belly_up, i'd also like to see your design, maybe start a new thread in the parts forum to further discuss this.
i saw on some site, a drive train that was more like a drive shaft, that transfers power through differentials, this would be a sure fire way of cleaning up the drive train area. i think i was it on an all wheel drive bike.
Grip
Yeah, yeah... blah, blah.
Hey I really don't think any of you are "off topic"... this ALL makes good reading and there are some great ideas out there.
Three people have already approached us re the portable, fold-up kicker and "socket" is working up a drawing for what he thinks is needed for this. I reckon we could at least make a few if we can get the design down. Keep in mind that to work without punching your rear wheel up and over your head the length is going to be critical. Like I said... tell us what you want in the way of open dimensions (length, height, width and even radius if you can manage it) and then what size you reckon you could carry round and we'll have a serious look at it.
PS
the magnetic field pedals are being tested as I write this - unfortunately the "field" is so strong it can scramble an egg from twenty paces.
we have introduced a sub $100 workstand - send your cheque and the milk crate is on its way! Choice of colours!
the "over-stay" deraileur/shifter idea is intriguing, but every time I think about chain-run, tension, space inside a 4bar etc I need a little lie down!
Three people have already approached us re the portable, fold-up kicker and "socket" is working up a drawing for what he thinks is needed for this. I reckon we could at least make a few if we can get the design down. Keep in mind that to work without punching your rear wheel up and over your head the length is going to be critical. Like I said... tell us what you want in the way of open dimensions (length, height, width and even radius if you can manage it) and then what size you reckon you could carry round and we'll have a serious look at it.
PS
the magnetic field pedals are being tested as I write this - unfortunately the "field" is so strong it can scramble an egg from twenty paces.
we have introduced a sub $100 workstand - send your cheque and the milk crate is on its way! Choice of colours!
the "over-stay" deraileur/shifter idea is intriguing, but every time I think about chain-run, tension, space inside a 4bar etc I need a little lie down!