Following that gets you this ->Three very wise pieces of advice. Especially the first.
Talking to keep the conversation going is a turn-off. When you come to a conclusion or the end of a point (as in you've both agreed and no more can really be said), sit for a moment. Show confidence that you can be content with your own silence - something too many people can't do. Pensive moments (even though your mind might be racing for another convo-starting topic) are just as important as the words in between. She'll most probably like it, and you won't feel like a twat for repeating what you've already said just to keep the noise flowing.
With the payment thing, as Regan says below, be assertive. Be confident but humble. You don't need to flash $50 notes or read the bill out loud - just act as if you were by yourself. If a girl ever protests with me over a bill I'll say something like "It's okay, you can get the next one" - not cocky, just a calm, suggestive (almost joking) assumption you'll go on another date together soon. It helps break any tension, too, as you'll most probably both smile at each other.
13 months isn't much, especially not once you start getting into your 20's. Be confident about the age thing - most 18 year olds aren't. If she likes going for coffee with her other friends, do something completely different (and I don't mean a movie). There's only so much coffee one chick can be offered per day, and by going somewhere else or doing something different (whether she likes the idea of it or not) you'll be set apart from the rest of the chumps out there.
no pressure.Matt, you feeling the pressure to not blow this date now?
Fuck that. Leave your hand sort of open with palm facing upwards on the arm rest. It works. She'll grab your hand if she wants.The "cinema yawn trick". Ye or ne?
Learnt a hard lesson there............DON'T TALK ABOUT BIKES!
Ne.....The "cinema yawn trick". Ye or ne?
been done to death. You're much better off with the old 'cut a hole in the bottom of the popcorn holder' trickThe "cinema yawn trick". Ye or ne?
Important advice that is, pretty sure most girls HATE bike talk and would much prefer the conversation be about them.DON'T TALK ABOUT BIKES!
Any reason for this? It is bonding with out having to talk much and if worst come to worst, you see a crappy movieI generally avoid cinema's for first dates.
Combined with the dinner beforehand I don't see the harm. Movie by itself would be too little interaction though...I generally avoid cinema's for first dates.
Although it does have certain benefits its a bit cliche, and its the sort of thing everyone did when they where 14.........If you can be a bit more creative then it doesnt radiate the impression that you just want to hook up/ not talk to her/ see a movie. I find after having been going out for a while movies are great, just not first date material.Any reason for this? It is bonding with out having to talk much and if worst come to worst, you see a crappy movie
Yeah I dont mind it then...Combined with the dinner beforehand I don't see the harm. Movie by itself would be too little interaction though...
WTF does that have to do with sharks!?Girls are like sharks man, they can smell fake from a mile away, so just be natural, no matter what you do.
Ixnay on the yawn trick, just try the good old hand hold and see how you go.
Sharks & blood in the water...WTF does that have to do with sharks!?
Also, should I try and pay the bill, or is that too 'demeaning' for liberated women..?
always foot the bill
i have done it heaps for girls (friends, trying to be more then friends) they all love it, but dont be so cocky about it, be subtle, just like,when you ask for 2 movie tickets, before the clerk asks, hand them a $50 so they realise your paying for the bill,
but never to sublte!
thats the only help i can give
more will come, after i have a few more beers