You need the magura lines with Shimano nut/olive setup. Works a treat, solid feeling lever and powerful caliper.My MT5 levers are leaking dammit!! Plus they are shit to bleed. Any reason why I couldn't cut the lines and fit XT levers? Magura and shimano are both mineral?
Perfect. That's what I figured. ThanksYou need the magura lines with Shimano nut/olive setup. Works a treat, solid feeling lever and powerful caliper.
I've done it with 2 sets. I like the zee levers better but m765 levers also working fine.
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Might even go that way. Nice and cheapIn a fun parallel. Im running deore levers with my TRP 4 pots. Heaps better feel and no wandering bite point
Everything I have read puts it down to the bore in the lever not being hardened, or something like that.Is Shimano wandering bite point due to the levers or calipers?
Yeah, it's in the lever somewhere. Swapped calipers from 2 pot to 4 pot with the same lever and it improved but hasn't gone away. It's a tiny amount of difference, enough to be annoying, not enough to make me do something about it.Everything I have read puts it down to the bore in the lever not being hardened, or something like that.
What confuses me though is when people put on Magura callipers all of a sudden the wandering bite point goes away. To me this points to the caliper/hose/combination of all 3 being the problem.
Hoping someone has an answer because I have been wondering for a while.
From what I read it was the wearing down of the master cylinder bore that caused it. Going from 2 pot to 4 pot would probably reduce it because of the larger volume of fluid.Yeah, it's in the lever somewhere. Swapped calipers from 2 pot to 4 pot with the same lever and it improved but hasn't gone away. It's a tiny amount of difference, enough to be annoying, not enough to make me do something about it.
Could be that, but mine have been like it from new.From what I read it was the wearing down of the master cylinder bore that caused it. Going from 2 pot to 4 pot would probably reduce it because of the larger volume of fluid.
Guess it's still the lever and going to new calipers won't fix it.
What are you going to do with the XT 4 pots?Yeah my bike came with 4 pot Shimano XT's. Thoroughly disliked the wandering bite point and on off feeling, so I replaced them with Magura MT5's.
Sure the MT5's have taken me a huge amount of time to set up (primarily due to them being the first set of brake I have ever bled), but (apart from the noisy race pads) they are the first set of brakes I don't think about on the trail. They're awesome.
The idea of changing the levers to Shimano's has made me curious, but considering the wandering bite comes from the levers, it will be a firm no for me.
Sold them about a year agoWhat are you going to do with the XT 4 pots?
Bah just missed it.Sold them about a year ago
My XT 4 pots did a wandering bite point thing and I came to the conclusion it was the pistons in the caliper. Would only happen on the front caliper and I could replicate it on the same piece of trail on nearly every ride. I would hit some decent chattery square edge bumps which would be violent enough to move the pistons back into the caliper so when I squeezed the brake the lever it would either go to the bar then pump up or anywhere in between depending on how far the pistons had gone back into the caliper. Made it quite interesting going into the upcoming right hand corner and I weirdly enjoyed the feeling of controlled chaos going into that trail but I started getting quicker and it was happening too often to be comfortable with and I went Magura on everything.From what I read it was the wearing down of the master cylinder bore that caused it. Going from 2 pot to 4 pot would probably reduce it because of the larger volume of fluid.
Guess it's still the lever and going to new calipers won't fix it.
How old are they? I thought Magura were meant to be pretty good with warrantyMine are leaking levers. I can pull the rear into the bar after a full bleed still. Plus they are a PITA to bleed. Shimano are so easy with the cup! Even a wandering bite point will be better than not stopping.