jarrod839
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i really hate this forum sometimes too. Not meant to be spending coin at the moment but was about to buy guide ultimate levers but instead pulled the pin on a full hope V4 setup today from CRC.
zee vs guide rsc
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freeriding
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JTmofo
can you make a comparison of guides and e4?
did you use them for a long time? are they similar in feel and operation (modulation, instant stopping power etc)? what about brake fade and consistency?
i decided to pull the trigger on one of these 2. (shimanos go out of the way)
PS. can i find guide rs or rsc levers (only levers) to fit them with my code calipers? (this way i save money and also have a nice set, used by many pros)
can you make a comparison of guides and e4?
did you use them for a long time? are they similar in feel and operation (modulation, instant stopping power etc)? what about brake fade and consistency?
i decided to pull the trigger on one of these 2. (shimanos go out of the way)
PS. can i find guide rs or rsc levers (only levers) to fit them with my code calipers? (this way i save money and also have a nice set, used by many pros)
TheAzza
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You made the right decision. What is money anyway?
jarrod839
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they had everything i was after minus the sram match maker which everywhere seemed to be outta stock. Was $60 more at CRC.Any reason you picked CRC? Seems more expensive than others. Just curious!
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pink poodle
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It definitely works, unlike the shimano version. I can't answer in relation to guides, but have used older codes and elixirs with similar adjustments. The hopes seem to work as well, but don't have as much range. But it is by microns. Adjusting the BPC also brings the lever in towards the bar slightly.
Ummm...no I mean some spacers. Look at the rotor again. I have never noticed any feedback in the brake. A few friends have ridden it as well and the only brake feedback i get is wringing about the angle I like my levers on and how pure sex the brakes feel. Once a long time ago I was getting some strange vibes from the brakes on trail. The rotor bowls had come loose! Fortunately my multi tool has a t25.
link1896
Mr Greenfield
When you set the rear up like this, no wonder it comes loose
Good idea removing those extra spokes you don't need too... Especially on the brake side!When you set the rear up like this, no wonder it comes loose
pink poodle
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One of the finest home jobs I've seen.When you set the rear up like this, no wonder it comes loose
Flow-Rider
Burner
EeeeeeW! Wheels about to fall out of the dropout even. :fear: Almost like tag a mate that would ride that, meme.When you set the rear up like this, no wonder it comes loose
pink poodle
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Nah man that is just chain line perfectionism.
freeriding
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jarrod839 where did you find the guide levers sold separately (from the calipers)?
Nautonier
Eats Squid
This is a combination I'd also like to try, which could be as good or better than the Hopes (there must be a reason so many EWS riders are running it - other than sponsorship). The RSC callipers are excellent, but possibly not quite as powerful as Codes. I also think Codes may hold up better on really long steep descents where you typically tend to feel fade in just about any brake.
I've mentioned this before in a thread about brakes, but my bench mark test run for brakes is "Slippery Jacks" in NZ, which goes from Coronet Peak down to Arrowtown. I've done this run on RSCs, Saints and XTs and all of them suffered massive brake fade at the end of the prolonged steep section once I got to the saddle. Long shot, but if anyone has done this run (at a reasonable pace) on Hopes and can confirm no brake fade then I'm definitively sold.
hifiandmtb
Sphincter beanie
That descent sounds difficult to say the least.
Fundamentally, every MTB disc brake might suffer down there...don't forget, a brake is nothing more than an energy converter (kinetic to heat), unless you fit bigger/thicker discs with larger pads & bigger calipers (all for heat management) the result will likely be the same.
Fundamentally, every MTB disc brake might suffer down there...don't forget, a brake is nothing more than an energy converter (kinetic to heat), unless you fit bigger/thicker discs with larger pads & bigger calipers (all for heat management) the result will likely be the same.
link1896
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Wow had a look on merlin today and they are sold out of the e4 rear unbraided hose.
Rotorburners causing a shortage in the market!
Chalk me up as another person interested in hope brakes after all the buzz on here...
Question, if forced to get braided hoses, is there any reason to not just go for the v4s instead?
pricing seems to be:
e4 + mounts + rotors = $480
v4 + mounts + rotors = $513
zee + mounts + rotors = $400
Rotorburners causing a shortage in the market!
Chalk me up as another person interested in hope brakes after all the buzz on here...
Question, if forced to get braided hoses, is there any reason to not just go for the v4s instead?
pricing seems to be:
e4 + mounts + rotors = $480
v4 + mounts + rotors = $513
zee + mounts + rotors = $400
FWIW i'm happy with the performance of my Guide R brakes on my glory with 203mm/180mm F+R centerline rotors. I have shimano XTs on the trail bike and they're noticeably more on/off than the guides, the guides you have a great range of modulation and I haven't suffered any brake fade yet on standard DH descents of 3-4 mins.
Love the feeling they give. The Guide RS/RSC i'm sure has more power again. Maybe I don't ride the DH bike enough to notice any issues with them, can't complain for the price I picked them up for. After i sold the DB5's it came with (they were OK but not 4 piston) the F+R set only cost me about $50-60 to change over.
Love the feeling they give. The Guide RS/RSC i'm sure has more power again. Maybe I don't ride the DH bike enough to notice any issues with them, can't complain for the price I picked them up for. After i sold the DB5's it came with (they were OK but not 4 piston) the F+R set only cost me about $50-60 to change over.
