tasty.dirt74
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I like em too! except fewer ks ...:tape2:
New XT.
- Thread starter The Duckmeister
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JT145
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http://flowmountainbike.com/tests/tested-2016-shimano-xt-11-speed/
A good read & review.
I reckon di2 will be about 12-18 months.
The Duckmeister
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I still reckon two years for Di2... When it appeared on road, although theoretically launched at the same time as the mechanical group (late-'08 for '09 model year) it didn't appear for close to a year later. When the updated Ultegra mechanical group was launched at the usual time, there was no hint of the Di2 version that history now shows arrived two years later. Campagnolo's EPS (still the only alternative to Di2 available) was some time behind Shimano's offerings, so the absence of a competitor isn't stopping Shimano from bringing anything extra out.
JT145
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Yeah I agree.
Hopefully Shimano see it as a way to somewhat recoup loss from being so late to the 1 x 11 party.
SRAM's wireless roadie gruppo won't be far, likewise FSA.
I wouldn't be surprised to see wireless on an XX1 group soon either.
The Duckmeister
Has a juicy midrange
Saw the goodies in the flesh yesterday. Most of the details are already well-covered. The brake feel is much more progressive than the current set; as suggested earlier, the Servo Wave cam has been reprofiled, so the action is much closer to that of the 1st-gen Servo Wave M975/775/665. The rest of the brake system is very evolutionary.
The RD clutch (as with XTR, there is no longer a clutchless version) is significantly improved over M786/6, and much more like XTR. It's now externally adjustable, so you can easily tweak the firmness out on the trail.
Cranks are available in 1x, 2x & 3x, and also in a "B" version with all configurations, with offset rings to suit Boost 148 rear ends.
For those who still like multiple chainrings, there are an astonishing 12 front derailleur variations! High clamp, low clamp, high direct mount, low direct (E2) mount, top swing, bottom swing, side swing, 2x & 3x. Still a more streamlined lineup than SRAM's truly mind-boggling 40 variations.....
Stuff should start landing in the next month or so.
The RD clutch (as with XTR, there is no longer a clutchless version) is significantly improved over M786/6, and much more like XTR. It's now externally adjustable, so you can easily tweak the firmness out on the trail.
Cranks are available in 1x, 2x & 3x, and also in a "B" version with all configurations, with offset rings to suit Boost 148 rear ends.
For those who still like multiple chainrings, there are an astonishing 12 front derailleur variations! High clamp, low clamp, high direct mount, low direct (E2) mount, top swing, bottom swing, side swing, 2x & 3x. Still a more streamlined lineup than SRAM's truly mind-boggling 40 variations.....
Stuff should start landing in the next month or so.
moorey
call me Mia
Duckmeister is a Shimano man. I think most people's choice will come down to brand loyalty.
Knuckles
Lives under a bridge
And gearing, and freehub.....
moorey
call me Mia
It runs on a regular freehub, yeah? Ain't no one, aside from ducky, going to be using Shimano hubs :whistle:
wkkie
It's Not Easy Being Green
I'm guessing he was probably referring to the SRAM driver....
moorey
call me Mia
I'm guessing you are right :behindsofa:
Alo661
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53mm cranks are for Boost. 50mm for everything else.
Interesting about the brakes, guess you could just buy a new set of levers and it'd be the same. Like having a set of Elixirs and then just buying Guide levers.
Duck, did they have a bike to demo round the carpark with XT on it? Going to be outa the country for the WA one....
Interesting about the brakes, guess you could just buy a new set of levers and it'd be the same. Like having a set of Elixirs and then just buying Guide levers.
Duck, did they have a bike to demo round the carpark with XT on it? Going to be outa the country for the WA one....
Haakon
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I still don't understand how they can get so much right and still have crappy free hubs....
Ackland
chats d'élevage
Some of the 2016 Giant range is already out... so unless Shimano filled OEM orders first you might be outta luck
Haakon
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I can dream... Mind you, Giant seem to spec a lot of brand new stuff as it comes out - my 2015 Defy with 5800 11 speed 105 for example, and the road disc stuff. Still a month to go before the Anthems etc get announced.
The Duckmeister
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SRAM have good concepts but the engineering is too often shit.... Shimano tend to be more conservative technically, but the execution is of a much more consistently high standard.
The Duckmeister
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Wider offset models have a -B (for Boost) suffix on the part numbers.
