Meh.
Electric Vehicles etc
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Haakon
has an accommodating arse
That’s how I feel about most car brands too.
Meh, most of them do testing at the ring these days and I’m sure many break their test mules.
Haakon
has an accommodating arse
It’s the pinnacle of economically mass produced battery tech at present.
Haakon
has an accommodating arse
Umm. What are you annoyed about? It’s jsut a car maker testing some new product... Who knows if it’s a pre production car or not, they’re not saying.
I’ve seen it a few place, you can probably google it, but from what I understand the Tesla packs are the cheapest per kWh at present. Maybe VW is doing better for the ID.3 packs but I doubt it.
And as the Munro and Associates tear downs show, the model 3 pack in particular is the best in terms of cooling and management as well as density.
Haakon
has an accommodating arse
And I meant it to note that F1 bears as much to bleeding edge production ICE cars as Formula E would to mass produced EVs...
I havent made my point properly, very poorly worded. Because all the battery tech across the board is secret squirrel aside from that which has been around for years and is not the future no one really knows how things are going and which horse to back. I dont like Tesla but that is immaterial. Battery tech is changing and advancing at a crazy rate. Talking to a, ummm, F1 tech about batteries their team philosophy has changed significantly in the last 2 years. Formula E which I find a yawnfest has actually done wonders for batteries. I have no idea if this is what Tesla is doing or anyone else for that matter. Ferrari and AMG are using different banks and unofficially the net output now is beyond the rules but measuring that is tricky.
Be nice to have some peer reviewed stuff going on to see how, when and where.
F1 has given plenty to the road...
Better?
Be nice to have some peer reviewed stuff going on to see how, when and where.
F1 has given plenty to the road...
Better?
hifiandmtb
Sphincter beanie
Might need to buy another one & do this:
And Strayan control computer.
Pity we shut down our automotive industry.
And Strayan control computer.
Pity we shut down our automotive industry.
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Cardy George
Piercing rural members since 1981
Is it all gone? Or have they kept their promise and have design teams still here?
Binaural
Eats Squid
Why would you keep a regional design team for a region where your profit margin depends on making as few modifications as possible? I mean, a team of 500 to tune vehicles will never make long-term sense. They will certainly start shutting that down once they think they're safe from a PR perspective.
gillyske
Likes Dirt
I think there's still a case for it, Australia has a quite a unique car market. The highest selling cars in Australia are not reflected in other markets. House hold incomes are higher on average and access to finance is pretty easy, designing the cheapest car possible only gets you so far. Look at Hyundai and Kia, they really only started taking off once they started costing a bit more.
Haakon
has an accommodating arse
Its only unique in the make up of the models preferred, and in the ability for manufacturers to dump old emissions tech and make more profits.
Modern cars are all extremely capable, the whole "big rugged car for a bg rugged country" thing is overstated now, and increasingly irrelevant given we are one of the most urbanised countries around.
Any hangover engineering capability of Fraud or GM is just that - a hang over. But, many of the component makers (at the ones that thought ahead and survived) moved into either extremely specialised parts makers that could absorb high manufacturing and shipping costs, or moved into other industries.
Haakon
has an accommodating arse
"are you going to break axles with this thing?!" " probably..."
droenn
Fat Man's XC President
A closer look at the XC40 Recharge, Volvo’s first electric car
The XC40 Recharge won’t blow people away or engender rapturous headlines like the Tesla Model 3 or the Porsche Taycan, but it has more to say.
www.theverge.com
Volvo's First Electric Car Kicks Off a Plan to Cut Emissions
The Swedish automaker introduced the XC40 Recharge, which can go from 0 to 60 mph in 4.9 seconds and reach about 200 miles on a charge.
Binaural
Eats Squid
Haakon is dead on with his comment that the only special thing about our market is the type of cars we prefer. It's not like other countries don't have bad roads or have particular cost points they prefer. People won't not buy cars because their most preferred alternative isn't available, they will just pick the nearest suitable equivalent, and there are a lot of those out there. In complex industries like car making, you cannot keep your design people separated long-term from your manufacturing, so simply put - these people should be making sure their linkedin is bang up to date.
hifiandmtb
Sphincter beanie
I don't.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-03...runt-of-australian-economic-slowdown/10875580
'Conomy. Product. Both influencing factors.
Binaural
Eats Squid
Reasonable points, but I was describing the perspective of somebody who has already decided they need to buy a car. Once a buying decision is made, the lack of a perfect option isn't going to stop anybody. But to be honest, the economy is the only decisive factor here - look at the chart below (from Wikipedia). 20 years of consistent growth, and the only really significant dip is in 2008 during the GFC. The announcement and closure of Holden and Ford manufacturing operations in Australia resulted in... steady upward ticking of new car sales. To be honest, I was expecting more of a levelling off.
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Haakon
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This feels significant.
https://media.ford.com/content/ford...argest-electric-vehicle-charting-network.html
https://media.ford.com/content/ford...argest-electric-vehicle-charting-network.html