Electric Vehicles etc

silentbutdeadly

has some good things to say

Here's some new research that demonstrates a method to provide a charge equivalent to a 200 mile range into a lithium battery in just 10 minutes by heating the cells to 60 degrees. The method also increases the number of available battery cycles...by lots and lots.

a 200
mile ange irn 10 min, so
-called extreme fast charging (XFC), is the key to mainstream adoption of battery electric vehicles (BEVs). Here, we present an asymmetric temperature modulation (ATM) method that, on one hand, charges a Li-ion cell at an elevated temperature of 60°C to eliminate Li plating and, on the other, limits the exposure time at 60°C to only ∼10 min per cycle, or 0.1% of the lifetime of a BEV, to prevent severe solid-electrolyte-interphase growth. The asymmetric temperature between charge and discharge opens a new path to enhance kinetics and transport during charging while still achieving long life. We show that a 9.5-Ah 170-Wh/kg cell sustained 1,700 XFC cycles (6 C charge to 80% state of charge) at 20% capacity loss with the ATM, compared to 60 cycles for a control cell, and that a 209-Wh/kg BEV cell retained 91.7% capacity after 2,500 XFC cycles.
 

Calvin27

Eats Squid
Hopefully a electrifying market opens up.
One of the benefits of SUV soft roaders is the possibility of a full EV rear drivetrain conversion. I'm not convinced of the wheel motors but a rear motor and batter configuration to the likes of part time awds could make sense.
 

Stredda

Runs naked through virgin scrub
One of the benefits of SUV soft roaders is the possibility of a full EV rear drivetrain conversion. I'm not convinced of the wheel motors but a rear motor and batter configuration to the likes of part time awds could make sense.
The Rivians Ute and Wagon are laid out one motor per wheel mounted inboard.
 

Stredda

Runs naked through virgin scrub
So uses a conventional wheel with inboard motor? I guess it saves on a diff.
Yes.
It allows precise torque to be delivered to each wheel. Something that is difficult with a differential. One wheel could hypothetically could be spun reverse to the others if needed. Unsprung mass is a difficult issue with hub motors and I doubt the one in the previous page video would have anywhere near the power as the large inboard ones.
 

flamin'trek

Likes Bikes and Dirt
Unsprung mass is a difficult issue with hub motors
And as mountain bikers we all know how a heavier wheel handles! Unsprung weight is not a good thing. Sure, it makes the drivetrain really simple, just a few wires but imagine a hub wheel motor hitting speed humps and how much suspension work you’d need to keep them on the ground in corrugated roads.
 

hifiandmtb

Sphincter beanie
Journalists...

The big news out of all of this is not that Chevy has put a fridge motor in the front of a C10, but that there’s a real chance that an electric powertrain may end up in the GM crate engine catalogue.
Fridge motor?

Well you have a shit for a brain.

There’s an undertow of “bash the EV to show you are a man’s man” in this society.
 

Haakon

has an accommodating arse
Journalists...



Fridge motor?

Well you have a shit for a brain.

There’s an undertow of “bash the EV to show you are a man’s man” in this society.
They many mans men all parked at Stromlo today... Sp many big 4WDs with stupid wheels and assorted add ons. Just write “erectile disfunction” across the windscreen and be done with it.
 

Scotty T

Walks the walk
One day oil will only be for making parts for the car. And grease for the moving parts. Burning oil to move cars is stupid and it's great we're getting beyond it.

That fridge motor could keep tonnes of food cold. Some fridge motors would power a car faster than any car. Fridge motors are no fucking joke.

Saw a couple of manly looking men at Stromlo, rolled into the Handlebar parking area on e-bikes.
 

Scotty T

Walks the walk

It just keeps getting better. Imagine when the Ferrari came out telling them in 2019 a battery powered mid range sedan would receive a remote update that would make it faster? Oh and more economical?
 
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