Is it a cheater switch and do you use it?

[Scotty T]

So I actively used my switch today. Stromlo is a few k's of climb so I went climb mode for all but Heart Breaker which was trail. Yeah it worked.

I forgot to switch out of trail for the rest of the ride, but other than Pork Barrel and Three Amigos there's nothing we rode on the down that wasn't trail suitable.

I reckon I was underestimating how much better it is using the switch but unless I'm trying to smash an uphill record I'll just leave it in trail, vice versa for downhill. I probably also underestimated how good my bike rides on the middle setting too. Pop city.

 

[Scotty T]

*trail definitely climbed better

 

[Flow-Rider]

 

[cokeonspecialtwodollars]

^ but do you use it?

 

[Flow-Rider]

^ but do you use it?

Only on climbs .

 

[cokeonspecialtwodollars]

 

[Scotty T]

I'm only being half a cheater, trail is great for climbs and most descents I ride so tending to leave it there unless it's rough stuff. Climb is just less comfortable and feeling very little difference to trail in terms of putting power down. Backflip cheetah!

 

[droenn]

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leopard switch?

 

[Flow-Rider]

leopard switch?

Yeah but meant to be this.

 

[Sethius]

Used twinloc on the Scott workbike alot. Use the cheat switch alot on local jumps, flat xc, mostly a sprint mode. Would definitely use a remote option.

Electric cheat switch front and rear is what I'm waiting for, I'll go electric dropper n gearing when I get my suspension remotes switches.

 

[Flow-Rider]

Used twinloc on the Scott workbike alot. Use the cheat switch alot on local jumps, flat xc, mostly a sprint mode. Would definitely use a remote option.

Electric cheat switch front and rear is what I'm waiting for, I'll go electric dropper n gearing when I get my suspension remotes switches.

I'm hearing a lot of good things about the Scott twin lock on the trails for climbing.

 

[Tubbsy]

It's always amusing watching the PB guys argue over the "cheater switch" and the bike prices and tech thread got me thinking about this suspension issue.

Do you flick the switch? Is it really worth it?

More on the topic:

Counterpoint: We Need Suspension Lockout Levers - Pinkbike

Matt Wragg argues that lockout levers let you have the best of both worlds.

www.pinkbike.com

 

[hifiandmtb]

It's actually a silly question.

Some suspension designs need a cheater switch.

Some suspension designs don't need a cheater switch.

 

[moorey]

Some mindsets need a cheater switch.

Some mindsets don't need a cheater switch.

Fixed.

 

[moorey]

I'm hearing a lot of good things about the Scott twin lock on the trails for climbing.

From Scott?

 

[hifiandmtb]

Because it rides like shit if you don't lock it out.

"Our bike is amazing when you throw the handlebar switch and lock shit out!".

 

[Flow-Rider]

From Scott?

Nah, I usually stop and chat to people at the top of trails heads when I see a new bike and ask them if they're happy with it, a lot of them say their piece and say it doesn't climb as well as my last bike, when I ask what their last bike was a few of them have had Scotts with the dual climb switch.

 

[Flow-Rider]

Because it rides like shit if you don't lock it out.

"Our bike is amazing when you throw the handlebar switch and lock shit out!".

Doesn't that tell you something about bump compliance on other bikes then, you can't have the best of both it's simple.

 

[Zaf]

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[DMan]

It sounds like a lot of you would use the switch, but the main concern is getting to the top and forgetting to switch back; and then being unable to when getting rowdy on a descent. Sounds like a handlebar remote would be a really good solution to this.


As long as it's silent and cleanly routed, it wouldn't bother me any. Don't find myself looking at my handlebars when riding.

Mate, since I got the Scott with the twinlock on the bars I'm using it constantly. Makes a huge difference to be able to toggle between open and mid for climbs. On my Reign I just left them alone as constantly reaching for the fork or shock was distracting.