Little Things You Hate

tubby74

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That was the question for those may not have been around/forgotten. The referendum was the first thing I ever voted on.
From memory a large partof the 'vote no' campaign was based around ' vote no on this republic'. They knew that becoming a republic was generally viewed in a positive light, but the specification in the wording meant they could target people who wanted a republic but didn't want the President decided purely by the parliament.
a president appointed by parliament wont be popular. given how america's panned out, do we run the risk of someone even worse, just rich and popular getting the job? so much about that role is down to convention. direct election is probably in a dead heat with letting the monarchy keep the job for being best of a bad lot of options
 

mike14

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a president appointed by parliament wont be popular. given how america's panned out, do we run the risk of someone even worse, just rich and popular getting the job? so much about that role is down to convention. direct election is probably in a dead heat with letting the monarchy keep the job for being best of a bad lot of options
Well yeah it wasn't popular, that's why it failed. I remember my old man being pissed off because even though he was a fan of QEII he thought we should be a republic, but there was no way he was voting for it as worded.

I don't trust the Australian voting public one iota (well, I trust them to do what they usually do, it just doesn't align to what I want them to do!) but my take has always been that you take the good with the bad and not being beholden to a foreign country should always be the preferred option.
As it is, we'get no say in the GG now, the current one was endorsed/approved by the Queen and he's just been slapped down for trying to rort $18m plus $4m in perpetuity from the country but no-one really gives a shit; so how much worse can any other selection be?
 

Freediver

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As it is, we'get no say in the GG now, the current one was endorsed/approved by the Queen and he's just been slapped down for trying to rort $18m plus $4m in perpetuity from the country but no-one really gives a shit; so how much worse can any other selection be?
We actually do get a say, the king/queen appoints somebody recommended by cabinet but they can only be sacked by the monarch.
 

mike14

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We actually do get a say, the king/queen appoints somebody recommended by cabinet but they can only be sacked by the monarch.
OK, we get the same amount of 'say' as we would under the 99 model in that we vote for the people who vote on the GG. But unless you go to an election with each party having to declare who they would vote for/recommend, we don't really get a say.

Just realised you have taken my initial 'we' as = 'Australia'. I meant it as 'we' = 'the people'.
 

The Duckmeister

Has stumpy thumbs, Speciaized are so weird
Isn't this bordering on the electioneering thread?

Anyway, a possibly adequate solution I thought of could have Parliament shortlisting/appointing a handful of Presidential candidates, who are then voted on by the public. Would greatly reduce the risk of someone like Trump getting in.
 

cammas

Seamstress
Dogshit - had to take a call from my daughter about the car key she lost, after I got going again I could see something chunky on the toes of one shoe. Stopped at a set of lights and rinsed it off but when I got on the train I got a whiff of it, as I was running late after taking the call I had push to make then run like an idiot down the platform just making the train as the doors were closing as I got to the carriage.
So currently standing up the back of the train holding the bike, sweating like a pig because I’m unfit and smelling like dog shit.

Edit - at least I made the train.

Another edit-Did I mention it was fucking raining as well.
 
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pink poodle

aka stickchops
Dogshit - had to take a call from my daughter about the car key she lost, after I got going again I could see something chunky on the toes of one shoe. Stopped at a set of lights and rinsed it off but when I got on the train I got a whiff of it, as I was running late after taking the call I had push to make then run like an idiot down the platform just making the train as the doors were closing as I got to the carriage.
So currently standing up the back of the train holding the bike, sweating like a pig because I’m unfit and smelling like dog shit.

Edit - at least I made the train.

Another edit-Did I mention it was fucking raining as well.
Is this why everyone hates us?
 

Jpez

Knows which side his bread is butthurt
The non stop coverage of this thing is outta control. FFS they are still shelling around a nuclear power plant in the Ukraine and experts are saying it’s literally on the brink of disaster, literally half of Pakistan is under water, and many many other serious and noteworthy local and international stories are literally being ignored so fuckwit Koche can ask his correspondent “So how do you think the royal family are feeling right now?”
And Fuck Prince William and his sudden $1b estate inheritance and fuck the royal family. Outdated wankery.
 

pink poodle

aka stickchops
The non stop coverage of this thing is outta control. FFS they are still shelling around a nuclear power plant in the Ukraine and experts are saying it’s literally on the brink of disaster, literally half of Pakistan is under water, and many many other serious and noteworthy local and international stories are literally being ignored so fuckwit Koche can ask his correspondent “So how do you think the royal family are feeling right now?”
And Fuck Prince William and his sudden $1b estate inheritance and fuck the royal family. Outdated wankery.
Easy...she was such a humble servant of the people.
 

Minlak

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I understand all of the royal coverage it is pretty big news really - But do we need to have an almost blow by blow diatribe of everything that happens around the family now - it’s like a fucking reality tv soap opera - oh King Charles got annoyed at a signing ceremony - it not like he lost his mother or anything.

I guess that is news in general though now - click bait drama to encourage views so I win the viewerships
 

Mr Crudley

Wheel size expert
I understand all of the royal coverage it is pretty big news really - But do we need to have an almost blow by blow diatribe of everything that happens around the family now - it’s like a fucking reality tv soap opera - oh King Charles got annoyed at a signing ceremony - it not like he lost his mother or anything.
Totally agree. It must be slow news day without it :) I bet each network has a big FOMO without wall to wall coverage about minor details.
It goes on and on. I will always be amused to watch royalty, particularly Charles, to lose his shit over a pen. FFS. Be glad he doesn't have nuclear codes.
 

beeb

Dr. Beebenson, PhD HA, ST, Offset (hons)
I understand all of the royal coverage it is pretty big news really - But do we need to have an almost blow by blow diatribe of everything that happens around the family now - it’s like a fucking reality tv soap opera - oh King Charles got annoyed at a signing ceremony - it not like he lost his mother or anything.

I guess that is news in general though now - click bait drama to encourage views so I win the viewerships
I think I get more puzzled by the worship of wealth by the masses.

If it was some homeless bum that froze to death under a bridge no one would give a fuck. But old Queeny - endless hand-wringing and "Oh it's so tragic!", "What a great leader", "A royal for the people", (etc) ensues...

Yeah, just sit on $28bn in assets and do fuck-all your entire life and when you kick the bucket you're practically anointed a saint.

I didn't hate her but can't grasp people's obsession with the royals like they have some kind of relevance to their life.
 

Minlak

Ask me about HoboBlo franchise opportunities
I think I get more puzzled by the worship of wealth by the masses.

If it was some homeless bum that froze to death under a bridge no one would give a fuck. But old Queeny - endless hand-wringing and "Oh it's so tragic!", "What a great leader", "A royal for the people", (etc) ensues...

Yeah, just sit on $28bn in assets and do fuck-all your entire life and when you kick the bucket you're practically anointed a saint.

I didn't hate her but can't grasp people's obsession with the royals like they have some kind of relevance to their life.
She actually did heaps with her life - they all actually do - she was involved in over 600 charities and averaged 400 engagements a year
 

Freediver

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She actually did heaps with her life - they all actually do - she was involved in over 600 charities and averaged 400 engagements a year
And what did she do for those charities, was she at committee meetings or did she do more of the boots on ground stuff? Did she ever donate enough to affect her wealth? I'd guess the most she did for a lot of them was let them use the word royal in their name.
You do know that if she ate a dodgy curry she shat like the rest of us and that her husband was a complete dickhead.
 

ForkinGreat

Random Krishna
She actually did heaps with her life - they all actually do - she was involved in over 600 charities and averaged 400 engagements a year
Liz must have had a packed schedule, when she was more active, often doing several in a day, I guess, Which is nice, but apparently 36% of charity engagements attended by members of the british royal family were for charities they founded....
royal patronage does not guarantee publicity nor increase donations for the vast majority of charities that could do with a boost.

"Charities that they found are only 2% of the charities of which they are patrons but get 36% of their public engagements."
The report concluded the role of Royal Family members in raising money for charities they support is "small or zero" but Giving Evidence noted they could not find any evidence of royal impact but did not outright deny its existence.

The think tank added: "In other words, charities should not seek or retain Royal patrons thinking that they will bring the charity money.
 
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Mr Crudley

Wheel size expert
royal patronage does not guarantee publicity nor increase donations for the vast majority of charities that could do with a boost.
I know that many charities are good causes, be that for what it is and all.........but having the government which funds a large chunk of a royal family who in turn go out to spruik the public and corporations to give and fund said charities is a bit circular. Does make an excellent photo opportunity though.

It is a sad state when you can't rely on the charisma of Princess Anne, Andrew and other little known hangers on to collect and watch it all roll in :oops:
 
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