Moggio
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hehehe!!! That is some funny bitchin' at the old analog whingers (ie me!!!)
Music, the best sound ever made!
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Kizzmtbr
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Apple have their own format : apple losseles. Which sacrifices some quality to fit in a smaller file but no where near as much as mp3.
I'm pretty sure they also made acc mainstream with iTunes and iPod instead of just mp3.
NCR600
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Parody threads rule, until you see page 1 filled with 5 real threads, and 15 parody threads, some a parody thread of a parody thread... of a parody thread. Used well, like this one, I'm all for it!
Music is probably the best sound ever. I just imported 5 tasty 12" platters from America. Haven't played them yet, need a new needle, but I'll shake the house down this weekend for sure
Music is probably the best sound ever. I just imported 5 tasty 12" platters from America. Haven't played them yet, need a new needle, but I'll shake the house down this weekend for sure
PINT of Stella. mate!
Many, many Scotches
Joy
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hahaha.
Don't get me wrong, I adore the convenience of mp3s and ipods. I do not miss my discman days one bit! I can't wait for a lossless, small size, music format to be introduced. When I'm at home though I use the opportunity to crank my vinyl. Nothing better than listening to Judas Priest the way it was originally intended to.
Joy
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Yep. Or whilst riding a harley to said leather bar
harmonix1234
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I remember when I did my audio course we had a big ol Tascam 2" reel to reel 24 track tape machine. When it rewound it would rev so high I thought the thing was going to explode. Damn it sounded nice though. That analogue natural compression does wonders.
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Moggio
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Size of the file is only relative to what it is stored on or the bandwidth of what it is transfered over. Flacs are really pretty small compared to the size of memory on players nowdays. So an album as a flac which is no lossy may be 5x the size of an mp3 but its a case of so what as the memory of the devices are so large.
When I was at Uni in the stone age my initial thesis idea was hard disk recording in digital formats. However the largest desktop harddrives at the time would not even store one stereo song... so I ended up doing some boring crap thesis instead. Technology has come a long way since then.
Joy
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No you're right, but who's to say it couldn't happen in the future?
McBain
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It would seem apparent you dont live in real music territory, up here 90% of music files are mp3's for a reason - they go further than anything else and are more reliable. When you listen to music in the remote corners of Arnhem Land then these things become important to your very survival.
(Ahem.)
What you are talking about is lossy vs lossless compression. All your favourite file compression formats (RAR, ZIP) are lossless because if you lose any information, your warez - sorry, backups - get sad.
The obvious reason that lossy formats (jpeg, mpeg, H.264) compress so much more than lossless (png, FLAC) is that they can throw information away - the big difference between different formats is how they decide what to throw away. This uses a lot of theory about how we perceive things, like can we tell tiny differences in colour apart, or tiny differences in sound.
A little bit of loss in the music information really isn't noticeable, unless you are a deluded audiophile with $30,000 digital cables and a $10,000 pearwood volume knob for better music colour. (I'm not talking about the difference between 128kbs and 256kbs, that is noticeable, unless you only listen on crappy headphones or bad car radios.)
Btw, there is a way to compress some music really really well, absolutely perfectly - it is called sheet music. Except you lose the information about how it was played.
(Ahem.)
Not quite. You can compress without loss, like some formats do already.
What you are talking about is lossy vs lossless compression. All your favourite file compression formats (RAR, ZIP) are lossless because if you lose any information, your warez - sorry, backups - get sad.
The obvious reason that lossy formats (jpeg, mpeg, H.264) compress so much more than lossless (png, FLAC) is that they can throw information away - the big difference between different formats is how they decide what to throw away. This uses a lot of theory about how we perceive things, like can we tell tiny differences in colour apart, or tiny differences in sound.
A little bit of loss in the music information really isn't noticeable, unless you are a deluded audiophile with $30,000 digital cables and a $10,000 pearwood volume knob for better music colour. (I'm not talking about the difference between 128kbs and 256kbs, that is noticeable, unless you only listen on crappy headphones or bad car radios.)
Btw, there is a way to compress some music really really well, absolutely perfectly - it is called sheet music. Except you lose the information about how it was played.
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