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[beeb]

Haha, I've been pondering the same top-tube stays idea for another Waltly frame. I'll look like a copy-cat now!

 

[Flow-Rider]

Haha, I've been pondering the same top-tube stays idea for another Waltly frame. I'll look like a copy-cat now!

Back to the drawing board.
I wonder if they ride like a Ti frame with those long skinny stays, the old triple triangles in alloy were like riding a brick.

 

[Oddjob]

Top tube stays

*seat stays.

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[Dales Cannon]

*seat stays.

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Look at the pic and then look at the words. He done that delibarartly.

 

[slowmick]

New GT Zaskar LT is out, quite odd looking rear chain stays but similar to their road bikes.

The frame painters must love that.

 

[pink poodle]

I love the look of those fox 38 forks. But...but...butt...butts...why the fuck not go for the tried and true 20x110mm axle? I'm assuming the boost in size is aimed at increasing stiffness?

 

[Zaf]

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[Flow-Rider]

The frame painters must love that.

Yeah, the old ones weren't the easiest to paint either.

 

[leitch]

I love the look of those fox 38 forks. But...but...butt...butts...why the fuck not go for the tried and true 20x110mm axle? I'm assuming the boost in size is aimed at increasing stiffness?

Coincidentally, JG addressed this yesterday..

 

[pink poodle]

Coincidentally, JG addressed this yesterday..

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Let me translate that for everyone:

Imma suck down hard on the cocks that pay me.

He is a much better rider than I could ever wet dream of. Conversely I'm way shitter and a lot fatter than he could ever slip up and become. Gimme 20!

 

[Scotty T]

Yeah, the old ones weren't the easiest to paint either.

Please call it by its proper alliterated marketing name.

 

[Oddjob]

Look at the pic and then look at the words. He done that delibarartly.

So does that make this a rocker link stay?

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[Zaf]

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[Oddjob]

Yes, I think Chris Porter has a big thing about calling them "push stays" or "linkage stays" as for all full suspension bikes they don't meet the qualifiers to be called a seat stay.
Same reason you don't call the it a seat/chainstay on an Orange, it's just a swingarm.

News to me. What are the qualifiers?

What does Chris say about chain stays on duallys?

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[Isaakk]

Interesting choices with the progressive changes to STA the larger the size on the Zaskar.

 

[Zaf]

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[Oddjob]

In the strict sense of the word.






Full suspensions are a little different, and depending on the suspension layout won't have parts that are relative to this. For instance, Santa Cruz rear triangles, despite having struts that could be loosely aproximated as chainstays and seat stays, are in fact all one piece that would be described as a "rear triangle" or "rear swingarm" in the same way we describe an Orange's rear swingarm.

That being said, we use language to best describe the approximate part. You wouldn't say you cracked the "upper right strut of the rear swingarm"...you'd say you cracked your "right seat stay", because descriptively it makes sense even if there's no basis for it to be called that.

But, that's why I was making the semantic point of calling it a top-tube stay.

You know, now that I've had to explain the joke, it's killed it...and it really wasn't that good to begin with.

This reminds me of the e-mtb/motorbike/moped argument. See reasonably civilized argument here

https://nsmb.com/articles/godwins-law-e-bikes/

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[Halo1]

I do like the colour of the new Zaskar.
I think GT has got the colour scheme right over the last few years.
So is it an all all mountain hard tail now or just ridden like one on that vid ?

 

[Mr Crudley]

I do like the colour of the new Zaskar.
I think GT has got the colour scheme right over the last few years.

They would be nuts not to bring back a ball burnished polished finished on an alloy Zaskar.
Almost the marketing equivalent of shooting fish in a barrel.

 

[Halo1]

Coincidentally, JG addressed this yesterday..

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I don’t get it if I am to fast for 15mm or too slow for 20mm. 9 mm is fine, what about 12 on the back?what a load of shit. One standard would be nice for us non pros and I will keep pushing for it!