The election thread - Two middle-late aged white men trying to be blokey and convincing..., same old shit, FFS.

Who will you vote for?

  • Liberals

    Votes: 1 1.5%

  • Labor

    Votes: 21 30.9%

  • Nationals

    Votes: 1 1.5%

  • Greens

    Votes: 21 30.9%

  • Independant

    Votes: 15 22.1%

  • The Clive Palmer shit show

    Votes: 4 5.9%

  • Shooters and Fishers Party

    Votes: 1 1.5%

  • One Nation

    Votes: 1 1.5%

  • Donkey/Invalid vote

    Votes: 3 4.4%
  • Total voters
    68
ForkinGreat said:
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I think this is a reprise role not a new one, he's always been a bit aggro:
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Halo1 said:
Latham was so close to being PM. It was Albo that gave him critical support to become leader, then he got booted from the party, then booted from sky news, now booted from one nation. What next ?
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His ideological flip and spiral towards the gutter is truly something to behold; from leader of the Labour Party to One Nation outcast and political pariah.
 
Dutton's sacrificing of the AEC's integrity in the name of political expedience is not only Trumpian (he literally used the term "rigged"), but it's one of the lowest acts the Liberal Party have committed so far. There is literally a taskforce within the Department of Home Affairs looking at how to increase democratic resilience in Australia. Problem is, the greatest threat to the trustworthiness of democracy is the behaviour of politicians (this is not supposition, this is what the data says).

Not only is Dutton's LNP willing to sacrifice the potential for FN people to move forward, but they're also willing to damage the integrity of our democracy for political gain. I genuinely struggle to see what positive value the Liberal Party offers, they're no longer actual conservatives, given what happened under Morrison and now under Dutton, they're not even democratic. wannabe populists and autocrats.
 
johnny said:
Dutton's sacrificing of the AEC's integrity in the name of political expedience is not only Trumpian (he literally used the term "rigged"), but it's one of the lowest acts the Liberal Party have committed so far. There is literally a taskforce within the Department of Home Affairs looking at how to increase democratic resilience in Australia. Problem is, the greatest threat to the trustworthiness of democracy is the behaviour of politicians (this is not supposition, this is what the data says).

Not only is Dutton's LNP willing to sacrifice the potential for FN people to move forward, but they're also willing to damage the integrity of our democracy for political gain. I genuinely struggle to see what positive value the Liberal Party offers, they're no longer actual conservatives, given what happened under Morrison and now under Dutton, they're not even democratic. wannabe populists and autocrats.
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What the hell did the Potato do this time?

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Personally, I think yes or no. That's what the vote asks, not a tick or cross.
Surely people aren't that stupid they can't read the ballot correctly.
I'll move on now
 
safreek said:
Personally, I think yes or no. That's what the vote asks, not a tick or cross.
Surely people aren't that stupid they can't read the ballot correctly.
I'll move on now
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A simple basic Yes or No option that is really hard to stuff up is ideal.
But when a tick counts but a cross may not count, then it creates a perception of an advantage to one side.
Regardless of existing laws how they have not seen this and fixed it to remove any negative perception that will just be used to bash the process is beyond me. Modern politics is just bashing the process to pop pop the other side.
 
Halo1 said:
A simple basic Yes or No option that is really hard to stuff up is ideal.
But when a tick counts but a cross may not count, then it creates a perception of an advantage to one side.
Regardless of existing laws how they have not seen this and fixed it to remove any negative perception that will just be used to bash the process is beyond me. Modern politics is just bashing the process to pop pop the other side.
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Bloody politicians of all kind are just parasites, no backbone.
I don't like Albo but that other c*** takes the cake for not bagging Morrison.
Liberal needs new young blood, until then I'll keep voting for shooters party or Cannabis reform.
 
Tubbsy said:
IMO anybody struggling to understand the instructions is unlikely to have understood the question put to them.

The idea that this favours one side over the other is a cynical attempt to influence votes before the fact.
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I don't think it favours anyone, people have already made their minds up one way or the other. I just believe the question is yes or no, it doesn't even mention tick or cross so either should be invalid.
If you can't write yes or no, as you said, no idea what they are voting for.
 
Halo1 said:
A simple basic Yes or No option that is really hard to stuff up is ideal.
But when a tick counts but a cross may not count, then it creates a perception of an advantage to one side.
Regardless of existing laws how they have not seen this and fixed it to remove any negative perception that will just be used to bash the process is beyond me. Modern politics is just bashing the process to pop pop the other side.
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The problem is that this has always been the case for referendums and Dutton and LNP have always been aware of this. Either this should have been raised through previous processes or they totally missed it (very hard to imagine this being the case) and are now having a cry due to their own incompetance. Given all the cynical tactics we've seen them use so far, I'd suggest that they were always aware and are now doing their best to undermine confidence in the process.
 
johnny said:
The problem is that this has always been the case for referendums and Dutton and LNP have always been aware of this. Either this should have been raised through previous processes or they totally missed it (very hard to imagine this being the case) and are now having a cry due to their own incompetance. Given all the cynical tactics we've seen them use so far, I'd suggest that they were always aware and are now doing their best to undermine confidence in the process.
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I'm pretty sure these sort of complications and the convoluted wording of the question were held up as bastions of democracy by Howard and co in the republic referendum. Of course the lack of clarity around it all was a deliberate design to aid his no campaign.
 
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